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You could regain this skill easily. What’s stopping you?

To answer your question more directly:

In almost all cases, I don’t care enough about the random patch of land on the way to and around my destination to build up a mental map of it before setting out.

A while back, I was driving to a friend's house every few months to hang out.

The first time, of course, I used a GPS to direct me there. Had this happened in the early 2000s, I would have printed out Google Maps turn-by-turn directions.

After a few times, I tried not using the GPS to direct me there, although I screwed up the final turns a bit and might have turned on the GPS to direct me around the twisty maze of curved streets and cul-de-sacs.

I wouldn’t have done that kind of thing if I had an appointment that I didn’t want to be late to.

Also, using a GPS... (read more)

He plays Diablo 4, right?

In-game season changes come with balance-patch changes, but if his rift-clearing abilities are tanking, that says something.

gwern140

Well, if you want to try to use video game playing as a measure of anything, it's worth noting that his preferences have, fairly recently, shifted from strategy games (the original Civilization when younger, but even as of 2020--2021, he was still playing primarily strategy games AFAICT from Isaacson & other media coverage - specifically, being obsessed with Polytopia) to twitch-fests like Elden Ring or Path of Exile 2... and most recently, he's infamously started cheating on those too.

Could just be aging or lack of time, of course.

4jimrandomh
I don't think D4 works, because the type of cognition it uses (fast-reflex execution of simple patterns provided by a coach) are not the kind that would be affected.

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I can tell that this is a game being shown on ESPN between the New York Mets and the Milwaukee Brewers. I also think that the earlier estimation of winning is 50/50 in the first picture and 61/39 (favoring Milwaukee) in the second picture even though all the numbers around MIL are lower than the numbers around NYM.

I have no idea what to make of the “Live Money Line” part in the first picture.

For those of us who are interested in betting in the abstract but know nearly nothing about sports betting, would you explain what the picture is showing?

1quiet_NaN
Seconded. Also, in the second picture, that line is missing, so it seems that it is just Zvi complaining about the "win probability"? My guess is that the numbers (sans the weird negative sign) might indicate the returns in percent for betting on either team. Then, if the odds were really 50:50 and the bookmaker was not taking a cut, they should be 200 each? So 160 would be fair if the first team had a win probability of 0.625, while 125 would be fair if the other team had a win probability of 0.8. Of course, these add up to more than one, which is to be expected, the bookmaker wants to make money. If they were adding up to 1.1, that would (from my gut feeling) be a ten percent cut for the bookie. Here, it looks like the bookie is taking almost a third of the money? Why would anyone play at those odds? I find it hard to imagine that anyone can outperform the wisdom of the crowds by a third. The only reason to bet here would be if you knew the outcome beforehand because you had rigged the game. This is all hypothetical, for all I know the odds in sports betting are stated customarily as the returns on a 70$ bet or whatever. Edit: seems I was not very correct in my guess.

A stupid question, maybe, but:

I assume that if I want to get better at writing, I’ll have to get better at editing and revising.

However, how do I get better at writing if I don’t have anything to say?

Do I — and this task is likely underspecified/underdescribed — spend hours polishing turds?

6eukaryote
I'd suggest writing about stuff you're interested in but that don't feel crucial to get right, if that makes sense. A hobby, fiction, stories from your life, about your day, funny observations... If you don't have any other interests and just have to write about unimportant boring stuff - hey, yeah, sure, polish turds. I'm reading Ulysses right now and it's, like, mythologizing some guys going around their everyday lives and drinking and being casually rude. And it's one of the most beloved novels ever. Writing about boring everyday bullshit in ways that sound cool is a time-honored tradition.  Well, okay, you can also start writing about things you really care about - but I feel like there's a kind of person who might read this who, like, has a thing they really care about - "we need to develop more mRNA vaccines", maybe - and is going to write a mid essay about mRNA vaccines, and then they'll sadly think "well, nobody liked that essay," and never go back to it - and that would be sad. So if you're going to practice via writing things that are very important to you, you might have to be willing to write on the same topic/thesis a few times.  (Also, if a person in your audience reads one essay from you and doesn't like it, they might not be willing to read a second essay from you on the same topic even if it's better now - so you might also want to show different iterations to different audiences, if your potential audience isn't large. YMMV.)

What’s the causal mechanism behind “read good writing, and you’ll be able to write better”?

I assume I’m already used to reading good writing, and I’m not going to pick up any additional techniques by mere passive osmosis anymore.

3eukaryote
Yeah, so I bet passive osmosis has in fact gotten you somewhere, but to go a bit beyond that - * Can you identify when you're reading writing you like vs. writing you don't like? * What's the difference? * What kind of properties does writing you like have, compared to other writing? (Especially compared to writing that's "just okay", as opposed to actively bad) * Can you recreate these in your own writing? * What effect does good writing have on you? (This is sort of an art more than a science, but like - do you understand the thing better? Do certain sentences just like really hit you? What's going on there?)

Does this post make its readers more sane? If not, why was it posted to Less Wrong?

4jak
thee Are you not Begging the Question here? Asking a question "Does this make one more sane?" And then simply assume that the answer is no?  (Am I begging the question with my response above? ... initiate recursive begging the question loop)     But more seriously, I think it would be interesting to have a more critical conversation about the first question you pose: Does this post make its readers more sane?  First, to point out the flaws that I think are bothering you. The post makes some very strong claims that are not backed up with even simple empirical evidence: 1. "The working class people who wished they weren’t alive." (how do you know they don't want to be alive? 2. "Having an apartment to yourself is out of the question" (Again stats on the number of people who need roommates in miami would be easy and make this comment more meaningful) 3. "You sit down in your bedroom with your frozen dinner and numb yourself with your drug of choice: alcohol, weed, video games, porn" (Again interesting stats can defintely be found on the increase of all these numbing habits, but simply stating these as bad habits with no evidence for or against is frustrating. ) So yes, there are noticible flaws in the way this post makes claims of fact without providing evidence for it. Clear marks off. However, I do think this post gets at a feeling that I believe is common. A feeling of malaise and dread about living a life you don't like. And a story of how that can turn someone into what looks like a zombie. And stories can have sanity inducing effects on people, even without backing statistics. Harper Lee's Too Kill a Mockingbird  did not include stats about how poor African American's were treated, but it still highlighted a specific instance of injustice in dramatized form. Making the injustice more tangible in a way that pure stats don't convey. Same could be said about The Red Badge of Courage on the terror of war, or 1984 on the terrors of a totalitarian state.   I
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400 kg/kg/day

400 kcal/kg/day, right?

If even one out of every ten accessibility advocates/experts/etc. did these things, then all these bugs would’ve been fixed years ago.

Maybe you're aware of an OOM more accessibility advocates than I am, but I come across all sorts of well-written blog posts explaining this or that bug, which browser/etc. it happens in, and how to work around it. That's most of the bullet points, although it might not be in the bug tracker of choice for the project.

What people aren't doing, as far as I have seen, is starting pooled-funds bug bounties for these things. Pe... (read more)

They do not have any incentive whatever to help to fix bugs in screen reader programs. What would that do for them? The better such programs work, the less work there is for these people to do, the less there is to talk about on the subject of how to make your website accessible (“do nothing special, because screen readers work very well and will simply handle your website properly without you having to do anything or think about the problem at all” hardly constitutes special expertise…), the less demand there is for them on the job market…

You don't eve... (read more)

3Said Achmiz
Uh-huh, and what about the people who aren’t front-end developers, either, but only “advocates”, “experts” (but not the kind that write code), etc.? To help with projects like “an open-source screen reader”, it is not necessary to be able to write C++ (or whatever) code. You can also: * file well-written and well-documented bug reports, including testing with various setups, detailed replication steps, etc. * survey alternate software options, cataloguing which of them correctly handle the relevant test cases, and how * find people who do have the relevant expertise and may be willing to contribute code, and connect them with the maintainers * contribute funding to the project and/or help to convince other people to contribute funding * other (i.e., “reach out to the maintainer(s) to ask them what would help get the bug fixed, then do that”) If even one out of every ten accessibility advocates/experts/etc. did these things, then all these bugs would’ve been fixed years ago.

While I can imagine why others would want to see this sort of thing, it seems to me that "this will go on your permanent record" would be a strong disincentive to engage seriously with the text or mention anything aloud that you wouldn't be comfortable with anyone in the world, ever, knowing about you.

I do actually have plans to learn enough html to swap my Wordpress site over to a self-hosted self-designed website, I just have to, like, get good enough with HTML and CSS and especially CSS to get Gwern’s nice sidenotes

You can start with the Dan Luu aesthetic and then redesign your site, either incrementally or in big leaps, possibly repeatedly, later. Redesigning websites is totally a thing. https://gwern.net gets near-constant upgrades, and all sorts of famous web-nerd bloggers have improved their sites' designs over the years and now decades.

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I'd like to second this comment, at least broadly. I've seen the e notation in blog posts and the like and I've struggled to put the × 10 in the right place.

One of the reasons why I dislike trying to understand numbers written in scientific notation is because I have trouble mapping them to normal numbers with lots of commas in them. Engineering notation helps a lot with this — at least for numbers greater than 1 — by having the exponent be a multiple of 3. Oftentimes, losing significant figures isn't an issue in anything but the most technical scientific writing.

Is there an alternative to constantly adding endless features? Can software be designed to operate without daily updates, similar to programming languages?

"daily" in "daily updates" is hyperbole, but you can probably get most of the way there with

  • a subscription-based model (annual and/or monthly)
  • periodic updates to ensure it works properly when the underlying platform changes (like when Apple adds dark mode to its OS and exposes this to websites with prefers-color-scheme).

The second bullet point is important, at least occasionally. I dropped my bel... (read more)

Cassandra/Mule: If Alice knew she were talking to a brick wall, she would give up; and if Bob knew Alice was trying to help, he would actually listen.

I've seen mules in the wild in internet forums (which, admittedly is outside the scope of your post). They usually present as ardent defenders of the faith, repeating well-known talking points…and never updating, ever.

1jchan
On the contrary, I'd say internet forum debating is a central example of what I'm talking about.

AI safety posts generally go over my head, although the last one I read seemed fantastically important and accessible.

AI-safety posts are probably the most valuable posts here, even if they crowd out other posts (both posts I think are valuable and posts I think are, at best, chaff).

If there were one dial I’d want to experiment with turning on LW it would be writing quality, in the direction of more of it.

I'd like to highlight this. In general, I think fewer things should be promoted to the front page.

[edit, several days later]: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/SiPX84DAeNKGZEfr5/do-websites-and-apps-actually-generally-get-worse-after is a prime example. This has nothing to do with rationality or AI alignment. This is the sort of off-topic chatter that belongs somewhere else on the Internet.

[edit, almost a year later]: https://www.le... (read more)

I'd like to like this more but I don't have a clear idea of when to up one, up the other, down one, down the other, or down one and up the other.

Would you rather live in a society that valued “niceness, community and civilization”, or one that valued “meanness, community and civilization”? I don’t think it’s a tough choice.

This is an awful straw man. Compare instead:

  1. niceness, community, and civilization
  2. community and civilization

Having seen what "niceness" entails, I'll opt for (2), which doesn't prioritize niceness or anti-niceness, and is niceness-agnostic.

That’s a lot of readers to throw away

Depends on how popular you are. Even if you make the highly questionable assumption that browser statistics collected on sites like cnn.com and such are representative of the readership of jefftk.com, if jefftk.com has hundreds of readers, he's still doing a lot of work for a group that can only manage to claim that there are "dozens of us", and in any case really ought to upgrade to a proper browser (and in probably most cases, OS) anyway, for security reasons.

Daring Fireball, a site you've probably heard of, seems to do OK with only browser-supplied fonts:

	font-family: Verdana, system-ui, Helvetica, sans-serif;

Also, jefftk said "requiring". Sure, he could have a site that uses Inter, either loaded from his own site or from a CDN like Google Fonts, but if Inter doesn't load (mostly likely because of user preference), then everything will be fine.

If TeX fonts don't load…then what happens? Does the user see raw TeX, or nothing at all, or…?

6gwern
Daring Fireball is a site one has primarily heard of for being an Apple/Mac shill, so perhaps not the best example of a website relying on OS-supplied fonts...
3Said Achmiz
Daring Fireball also uses: "Gill Sans MT", "Gill Sans", "Gill Sans Std", Georgia, serif Because of this, and what you quoted, a page that, on a Mac, looks like this: Daring Fireball page, as seen on a Mac on a Linux, looks like this: Daring Fireball page, as seen on a Linux i.e., it looks bad. And that is what happens when you don’t use webfonts. The user sees the rendered equations, set in whatever font is inherited by the equation element (most likely, the font of the surrounding text block). This might be fine: (Or, it could be very bad. You never know!)

I’m someone who was and remains a full supporter of BLM’s policy proposals

BLM's policy proposals have changed since you wrote that. Currently, they're at https://impact.blacklivesmatter.com/policy/. They are:

  • defund the police
  • No On Prop 25
  • voting-rights legislation
  • support for the Congressional Oversight of Unjust Policing Act (COUP Act)
  • Medicare for All
  • the police not using stuff made for the military
  • opposing Barrett's nomination to the Supreme Court
  • DC statehood
  • ending the filibuster
  • "climate justice"

(emphasis added)

Keep clicking on "Next Pillar"... (read more)

I was not aware of this shift at all, so thank you for the update. BLM started out as a slogan that sort of coalesced into a central organization, but it still has to wrangle with various competing local or independent chapters (I distinctly recall groups within the same area accusing each other of being a scam). So I don't think it ever made sense to say "I support BLM's policy positions" unless you were very specific. My praise was limited to Campaign Zero's specific positions and that remains the case, but I should probably add more detail going forward... (read more)

Also pertinent is exploring why I felt so attached to something I knew I couldn’t logically defend, and the simple explanation is that it was cool. Being a libertarian can be super socially isolating, especially if you live only in places overwhelmingly surrounded by leftists like I do.

20 years ago or so, Eliezer Yudkowsky said that the biggest obstacle to raising the sanity waterline was religion. This seemed very reasonable at the time.

I'm unconvinced that's still true in the West. What seems the larger barrier now are the things people say and believ... (read more)

4ymeskhout
Yes! A lot of filters seem to be consciously implemented, in the vein of "I know I shouldn't say this because it'll get me kicked out." But to make sure unconscious filters are also rooted out, I made it my mission over time to be more transparent about speaking my mind regardless of the social consequences. Surprisingly I can't say I experienced any fallout worth mentioning. I also recognize that I speak from a privileged position because my social life has been bustling for a while, so I wonder how much my tack would change if I wasn't so lucky.

A key problem to loss of LBM is that you’re either losing bone density (a terrible thing) or muscle (a pretty damn bad thing).

Could also be skin. Losing skin if you're losing fat is a good thing, I'd think, since you don't want to weigh 200 pounds yet still have all the skin you had when you were 300 pounds.

Has any work been done to see where the LBM has been coming from?

15hout
Not to my knowledge. There's a handful of studies that are pretty superficial (i.e. people come in for some DEXA (body composition) scans and that's it. I think it's going to take some time, because anyone involved in seeking approval of the drug has a huge negative incentive to look in this box, given the at least plausibly neutral results from the first supportive studies. I think the place to look for citizen science on this is going to be in the longevity community and similar areas where you have people semi-openly experimenting with what is sometimes colloquially called "sports TRT" (i.e. running a testosterone only steroid cycle with modest amounts compared to other uses). Certainly a lot of people that hoped on the TRT optimization bandwagon in the last few years (telemedicine changes may have spurred this on as far as I can tell) are overweight, and I can't imagine they won't try another (sometimes insurance eligible) injectable to fix the overweight part. The data will be messy, but I think there will be hints in a few years.

Oh, that's something significantly different from what I had in mind. Thanks for pointing me to the page that explains the concept.

Would it be useful to examine what exactly “low energy” means?

I'm not jp, but:

  • too awake to sleep
  • too brain-fogged to do thinking work
  • possibly too brain-fogged to listen to a podcast and retain anything from it
  • too physically tired to go for a walk or do other similar low-intensity exercise, like easy yoga
  • probably too brain-fogged to read — and really digest — the web articles that I've been postponing for months because they seem great, but I can never get around to

Meanwhile, here's what I can do in a low-energy state, some of the time (but I freq... (read more)

1jp
I think you and the previous commenter would both do well to read the short, hyperlinked definition. (Sorry.)

We might iterate on the exact implementation here (for example, we might only give this option to users with 100+ karma or equivalent)

I could be misunderstanding all sorts of things about this feature that you've just implemented, but…

Why would you want to limit newer users from being able to declare that rate-limited users should be able to post as much as they like on newer users' posts? Shouldn't I, as a post author, be able to let Said, Duncan, and Zack post as much as they like on my posts?

4Ruby
100+ karma means something like you've been vetted for some degree of investment in the site and enculturation, reducing the likelihood you'll do something with poor judgment and ill intention. I might worry about new users creating posts that ignore rate limits, then attracting all the rate-limited new users who were not having good effects on the site to come comment there (haven't thought about it hard, but it's the kind of thing we consider).  The important thing is that the way the site currently works, any behavior on the site is likely to affect other parts of the site, such that to ensure the site is a well-kept garden, the site admins do have to consider which users should get which privileges. (There are similarly restrictions on which users can be users from which posts.)

writing things down

A good idea but too general to be good advice.

More specifically (not an exhaustive list):

  • If you have a multistep 1- or 2-hour task, strongly consider scribbling down a quick checklist of what needs doing before your working memory gets swamped with the details of a subtask or three.
  • If you're in the middle of a programming project and need to pause your work, strongly consider typing out a message in a sticky-note-equivalent app like Tot that says "Welcome back. You were frobnicating the gleeberks because the gleeberks don't snozzl
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2Nicholas / Heather Kross
I do this currently, basically writing a stream-of-consciousness regarding whatever I'm doing, in a window right next to where I'm doing the actual writing/coding. Helps for context-loading, as you said, and also prioritization. Have barely begun applying this, but it's my new central default working method for most things.

Two responses:

  1. It's unclear to me what would make diet advice "rationalist".
  2. The only novel, actionable consensus I've seen seems to be "avoid eating or drinking things with sugar added to them, especially if there's a lot of added sugar".
1frankybegs
  This probably just means 'put together by members of this community'. Which is reasonable, because this community often does a better job of taking rational, evidence based approaches to things than the world at large.

If “refining the art of human rationality” is our goal, we should be doing a lot more outreach and a lot more production of very accessible rationality materials.

I agree, and I'm in favor of this sort of thing. I try to do this sort of thing among my friends. Sometimes it works, at least a little bit.

On the other hand, if we're trying to save Earth from being turned into paperclips, we ought to focus our efforts on people who're smart enough to be able to meaningfully contribute to AI risk reduction.

On the other other hand, there are people here who cou

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Answer by Three-Monkey Mind190

A second laptop charger.

It's nice to be able to charge your laptop at your desk, with a cord that snakes behind the desk, and not have to go in and undo all that just to get power to your laptop when you're out and about.

And if you're not getting out with your laptop, having a second charger is still useful. I have a makeshift standing desk with my laptop on top of my dresser. With a second charger set up like this, I can shift from standing to sitting on my schedule, not my laptop's battery's.

rossry*180

Ahem: a fifth laptop/USB-C charger. (One each for my couch, desk, and bedroom; two stay packed in my travel luggage.)

h/t to Zvi for making this suggestion in Dual Weilding, under the general heading of More Dakka.

Also, I find myself vexed with thoughts […] How do professional or amatuer traders deal with this?

Habituation, meditation, and/or alcohol.

Subjective experience:

  • Polyester (elastane, etc.) clothes are much more common these days. Back in the 80s, people wore way more cotton shirts to the gym. Nowadays, most people wear some sort of sweat-wicking heat-venting material. They're also cheaper; Under Armour used to run about $50. Nowadays, UA shirts tend to run about 3/5 that.

  • Remember back when wool was only for itchy sweaters? Nowadays, merino wool, which is less itchy for most people, is used for shirts and undershirts and even socks and underpants. The great thing about wool shirts is that

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2Elizabeth
Why is this? I'm perplexed at how long my wool socks last.

But if passages aren’t dense with that or other uses, then you wouldn’t need to use subscripting much, by definition....

Agreed.

Perhaps you meant, “assuming that it remains a unique convention, most readers will have to pay a one-time cost of comprehension/dislike as overhead, and only then can gain from it[…]

Agreed so far…

[…] so you’ll need them to read a lot of it to pay off, and such passages may be quite rare”?

You'll need a bunch in a single passage. If you don't need to disambiguate a large hairball of differently-timed people (like in My Be

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2gwern
Would you say that about citations? "Oh, you only use one source in this paragraph, so just omit the author/year/title. The reader can probably figure it out from mentions elsewhere if they really need to anyway." That the use of subscripts is particularly clear when you have a hairball of references (in an example constructed to show benefits) doesn't mean solitary uses are useless. It's a matter of emphasis. Yes, you can write it out longhand, much as you can write out any equation or number long hand as not 22230 but "twenty-two divided by two-hundred-and-thirty" if necessary. Natural language is Turing-complete, so to speak: anything you do in a typographic way or a DSL like equations can be done as English (and of course, prior to the invention of various notations, people did write out equations like that, as painful as it is trying to imagine doing algebra while writing everything out without the benefit of even equal-signs). But you usually shouldn't. Is the mention of being Facebook in that example so important it must be called out like that? I didn't think so. It seemed like the kind of snark a husband might make in passing. Writing it out feels like 'explaining the joke'. Snark doesn't work if you need to surround it in flashing neon lights with arrows pointing inward saying "I am being sarcastic and cynical and ironic here". You can modify the example in your head to something which puts less emphasis on Facebook, if you feel strongly about it.

This seems like a solid improvement over X!Y notation. X!Y seems to not fit my brain in the same way that XY seems to not fit my brain, and mentally substituting “’s” for “の” helps only partially.

Does it do enough good to be worth using despite the considerable hit to weirdness points? That I don’t know.

A better question, I think, would be this: "When is it worth it to use this one weird trick to boost the clarity of a work?"

It seems worth it in nerdy circles (i.e. among people who're already familiar with subscripting) for passages that are dense wit

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2gwern
But if passages aren't dense with that or other uses, then you wouldn't need to use subscripting much, by definition.... Perhaps you meant, "assuming that it remains a unique convention, most readers will have to pay a one-time cost of comprehension/dislike as overhead, and only then can gain from it; so you'll need them to read a lot of it to pay off, and such passages may be quite rare"? Definitely a problem. A bit less of one if I were to start using it systematically, though, since I could assume that many readers will have read one of my other writings using the convention and had already paid the price. Because it brings out the contrast: one is based on first-hand experience & observation, and the other is later socially-performative kvetching for an audience such as family or female acquaintances. The medium is the message, in this case. I waffled on whether to make it 'FB' or 'Facebook'. I thought "FB" as an abbreviation was sufficiently widely known at this point to make it natural. But maybe not, if even LWers are thrown by it.

we’ve e.g. carefully moved a group the conversation around not putting pressure on them to explain why they were unavailable last Tuesday.

What do you mean by "a group the conversation"?

2Ben Pace
Ah, there was an extra 'the' in that sentence. Edited. Let me know if it's still unclear.
Answer by Three-Monkey Mind50

Over on the "too small" end of the spectrum…

I wrote about how rationality made me better at Mario Kart which I linked to from here a while ago. In short, it's a reminder to think about evidence sources and think about how much you should weigh each.

More recently, I've been watching The International, a Dota 2 competition. Last night I was watching yet another game where I wasn't at all sure who would win. That said, I thought Team Liquid might win (p = 60%). When I saw Team Secret win a minor skirmish (teamfight) against Team Liquid, I made a new predictio

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1digital_carver
I think you mean "Team Liquid eventually won the game" here, since that seems to have been your original guess. Also, it would be interesting to see how the Dota Plus win probabilities at, say 15 minutes into the match, hold up against the actual wins/losses in the games. On the one hand, it seems very difficult to have good predictions in a game like Dota where things can turn around at the drop of a hat, but on the other hand we have OpenAI Five claiming 85% win chance just at the end of the drafting phase.
2Sunny from QAD
Vocabulary is big. What I'm about to say is anecdotal, but I think having the words to express a concept make that concept a LOT more readily available when its relevant. Thanks for the response!

A general rule that I try to follow is “never write something which someone else has already written better”.

A sensible rule, but I'd like to bring some rationalist insights to other communities that might be able to benefit from seeing how people who've read the Sequences handle things. This seems to necessitate a little bit of redundant writing.

Also, I could stand to get better at writing. On the other hand, if I limit myself to writing only novel things, I wouldn't practice nearly as much as I ought to do. Of course, the decision to publish any given

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Very true. I think I'm mainly trying to preempt accusations that I'm simply rehashing Taboo Your Words (which I pretty much am rehashing!)

Also, by stating "this isn't very novel", I'm also communicating to the neophyte (as opposed to current rationalists) that there's a wide body of knowledge out there that's quite similar to what I've written. That's potentially useful to the neophyte.

1anna_macdonald
Conveying that is often worthwhile, but it's situational enough that simply stating the context of what you're doing is probably a better idea than formalizing a novelty scale. Also, I didn't mention this above, but re-hashing stuff that isn't novel can be highly useful. Penetration of an idea into the population would never happen if people only ever pointed to the original source for an idea without conveying/spreading it themselves. It's helpful to have a million blog posts about the same thing, because each of those blogs is reaching a slightly different audience.

On the current four-point scale: 3±ε, where 3 − ε > 2 and 3 + ε ≪ 4. Like I said, these points aren't uniformly distributed.

I'm also familiar with trying to define a unit of enlightenment, so the whole idea of "make a scale" doesn't strike me as a very novel idea.

Drive-by suggestion: I'd suggest doing the archiving maybe a week or month after posting. That way, most updates to the post are archived, too.

2Said Achmiz
Actually, a feature I have on my to-do list to add to the ArchiveURLs recipe is automatic periodic (with a configurable period) re-archiving (which archive.is does support). That way, updates will get captured indefinitely.