Dwarkesh's summary:

Paul Christiano is the world’s leading AI safety researcher. My full episode with him is out!

We discuss:

• Does he regret inventing RLHF, and is alignment necessarily dual-use?
• Why he has relatively modest timelines (40% by 2040, 15% by 2030),
• What do we want post-AGI world to look like (do we want to keep gods enslaved forever)?
• Why he’s leading the push to get to labs develop responsible scaling policies, and what it would take to prevent an AI coup or bioweapon,
• His current research into a new proof system, and how this could solve alignment by explaining model's behavior
• and much more.