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Cicero wasn't Greek and is most known as a jurist and politician, not as a philosopher.

Although I am momentarily embarrassed, " I am one of those who are very willing to be refuted if I say anything which is not true, and very willing to refute any one else who says what is not true, and quite as ready to be refuted as to refute-I for I hold that this is the greater gain of the two, just as the gain is greater of being cured of a very great evil than of curing another."

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0 The great quote of rationality a la Socrates (or Plato, or Aristotle)

by Bound_up

23rd Jun 2015

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There's a great quote by one of The Big 3 Greek Philosophers (EDIT: Reference to Cicero removed) which I can paraphrase by memory as:

"I consider it rather better for myself to be proven wrong than to prove someone else wrong, just as I'm better off being cured of a disease than curing someone of one."

I can't find the quote, or from which of the Three it is.

Anybody know? Or know where to look? I've already tried varying google search techniques and perused the Wikiquotes article on each of them.

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[-]Unknowns10y80

This is from Socrates in Plato's Gorgias.

Also, this would be better in the Open Thread.

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[-]Bound_up10y00

Thank you, and I'll note the use of the Open Thread for future use.

Is there a word in the quote I can ctrl-f search for in Plato's Gorgias to find it quickly?

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[-]Unknowns10y20

It's going to depend on your particular translation. You might try searching for "refute", "refuted", "curing", "being cured". This is what it says in my version:

And what is my sort? you will ask. I am one of those who are very willing to be refuted if I say anything which is not true, and very willing to refute any one else who says what is not true, and quite as ready to be refuted as to refute; for I hold that this is the greater gain of the two, just as the gain is greater of being cured of a very great evil than of curing another.

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[-]tim10y70

This a great example of a question that belongs in the Open Thread.

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[-]Salemicus10y50

Cicero wasn't Greek and is most known as a jurist and politician, not as a philosopher.

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[-]Bound_up10y00

Although I am momentarily embarrassed, " I am one of those who are very willing to be refuted if I say anything which is not true, and very willing to refute any one else who says what is not true, and quite as ready to be refuted as to refute-I for I hold that this is the greater gain of the two, just as the gain is greater of being cured of a very great evil than of curing another."

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[-]Vinod Maseedupally6y30

"If you are a person of the same sort as myself I should be glad to continue questioning you: if not, I can let it drop. Of what sort am I? One of those who would be glad to be refuted if I say anything untrue, and glad to refute anyone else who might speak untruly; but just as glad, mind you, to be refuted as to refute, since I regard former as the greater benefit" Socratic dialogue Gorgias, by Plato......... found it on a wall poster.

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[-]eternal_neophyte10y20

I can't help you insofar as who the quote belongs to, but I have to point out that it's only better to be proven wrong given that you are, in fact, wrong. Being proved wrong all the time doesn't speak well of your talents as a rationalist.

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