I certainly hope that Kaj Sotala recent proposal is considered for funding as part of this programme. (Kaj, you around?)
Thanks, Mark. I'm definitely thinking about applying, but my current problem is that I have too many potential proposals that I could write:
I guess I could just write proposals for each of these and let FLI decide which one they find the most promising - their FAQ says that one can submit several proposals but they'll only invite one Full Proposal from a single PI.
The concept learning proposal is basically finished right? Submit it now. (OK, I'm biased -- I really like this proposal.) Start writing up the others in the order you think is most important / most likely to be funded and submit those as well.
As some feedback, I don't think "what are human values?" is likely to get much funding from FLI, although obviously a representative of that organization should correct me if I'm wrong. It seems they have a preference to projects more directly connected to code.
Regarding your third idea, I'm pretty sure there is already some published work in this area. I certainly recall some discussion in the OpenCog community about the nature of creativity and concept formation via conceptual metaphors. I'm pretty sure that was in response to some published academic papers, but I'll have to dig those up...
The concept learning proposal is basically finished right? Submit it now.
Good point, that makes sense.
I guess "can't choose the right one" wasn't actually my true rejection, rather I'm hesitating because I'm not sure whether this field is actually where my comparative advantage lies, and whether this is the kind of thing that I'd want to be doing. I do fine when it comes to vague philosophizing at the level of my original concept learning paper, but I'm much less certain of my ability to do actual rigorous technical work. Meanwhile I seem to be getting promising feedback of doing well on some other (non-technical) high-impact projects I've been pursuing.
Though I guess I could apply for the first stage of the grants anyway and decide later, since it doesn't commit me to anything yet...
I'm not sure whether this field is actually where my comparative advantage lies.
What else are you considering?
I would advise that's only half the the equation though. You should also weight by how unique that contribution would be. We simply don't have enough people doing AGI work like concept formation. Not to place too much pressure, but if you don't work on this then it's not clear who would. It's an underfunded area academically (hence these grants are a great opportunity), and too long term to be a part of industrial research efforts...
What else are you considering?
Rationality training and community-building, basically.
But I just submitted my FLI grant application for the concept learning project anyway. :-)
Rationality training by itself is worse than useless. Apply things in practice or you risk building free-floating castles detached from any practical application. A basic rule of thumb: if you spend more than 10-15% of your time on meta improvements, you are probably accomplishing less in your life than you could be. That means 85% to 90% of your time should be spent doing actual work.
As for community building, if that floats your boat, sure why not. I'm hoping you choose the FLI grant instead however :)
Rationality training by itself is worse than useless. Apply things in practice or you risk building free-floating castles detached from any practical application. A basic rule of thumb: if you spend more than 10-15% of your time on meta improvements, you are probably accomplishing less in your life than you could be. That means 85% to 90% of your time should be spent doing actual work.
Yeah, CFAR-style rationality training is the goal: carried out by actually troubleshooting and solving one's real-life problems, while also building a community of like-minded people to remind you to actually think about your problems instead of doing whatever default thing comes to mind.
As a follow-on to the recent thread on purchasing research effectively, I thought it'd make sense to post the request for proposals for projects to be funded by Musk's $10M donation. LessWrong's been a place for discussing long-term AI safety and research for quite some time, so I'd be happy to see some applications come out of LW members.
Here's the full Request for Proposals.
If you have questions, feel free to ask them in the comments or to contact me!
Here's the email FLI has been sending around: