I could use some help.
There exists somewhere a group of people that takes the whole "systemized winning" thing extremely seriously. Their ambition probably sounds insane to normal people. These people set themselves unreasonably difficult goals and achieve them anyways. They develop systems and tools to assist them, and in that group, share them.
Such a group doesn't advertise itself, and probably works by invitation. I don't know where they are or could be, but I want to find them anyways. This is where you guys come in:
I need you to point me in the direction of another group, community, discord server, subreddit, forum or whatever that gets me *closer* to what I'm looking for. *It doesn't have to be the group itself, just closer than this group*. Please let me know if any of you have an idea on where to go next.
Thanks!
FAQ
- "I don't think such a group exists"
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small-world_experiment - Again, I'm not asking you to point me to the group, but to another group that's closer to my target group. It doesn't matter that you don't know of such a group, but just that I get closer. Imagine the small-world experiment, but I'm the letter going from group to group, so to speak.
- "Isn't that kind of desperate/low status/cringe to put that effort into finding that group?"
- Maybe. Status considerations don't hold a lot of weight, so I'm doing it anyway.
- "What makes you think they'd take you in even if you find them?"
- There's no point in premature capitulation, they can reject me once I get there.
I doubt that. Productive people usually do not spend much time online. And when they do, it is usually focused, so would expect their online time to consist of:
People who spend a lot of time debating online are usually:
So I am afraid you will only find people who talk about systematized winning online.
Look at it from the opposite perspective: Imagine that you have already become very productive and successful. And you also know other productive and successful people that you like to discuss with, because you inspire each other and cooperate effectively.
I think you would prefer to meet them and talk in person, because that is way more efficient (assuming there is a lot you want to discuss) and also better from the privacy perspective than leaving a public written record on some forum (some topics are better to keep secret, such as the details of your financial situation, or how you handle your physical and online security, which is what successful and productive people would definitely discuss among other things). If meeting in person is inconvenient (e.g. living in different countries), something like Zoom would be the next best option.
Also, people who are productive in something typically go to conferences, not really to listen to the lectures (those are probably also available online) but to meet other people interested at the same things, so that they can discuss afterwards.
Also, successful people are usually successful at something specific. They may be interested in wide rage of things, but there will be a thing or two that they spend most time doing, and that is the source of their income or face. Even if you were talented at hundred different things, talent is nothing unless you actually do the necessary work, and there is not enough time in a day to work at hundred different things and accomplish something nontrivial. So you might find these people at forums dedicated to the specific thing they do. Choose the thing you want to do, and find a related Reddit forum, read the wiki and the top voted posts. -- But this is a different paradigm: such forum will not be a "successful group", but rather a group containing a few successful individuals (plus many bystanders). So you want to get the attention of those individuals. Either post something impressive and hope they notice, or maybe contact them directly and ask for some kind of advice or mentorship.