As I understand expanding candy into A and B but not expanding the other will make the ratios go differently.
In probablity one can have the assumtion of equiprobability, if you have no reason to think one is more likely than other then it might be reaosnable to assume they are equally likely.
If we knew what was important and what not we would be sure about the optimality. But since we think we don't know it or might be in error about it we are treating that the value could be hiding anywhere. It seems to work in a world where each node is pretty comparably likely to contain value. I guess it comes from the effect of the relevant utility functions being defined in the terms of states we know about.
As I understand expanding candy into A and B but not expanding the other will make the ratios go differently.
What do you mean?
If we knew what was important and what not we would be sure about the optimality. But since we think we don't know it or might be in error about it we are treating that the value could be hiding anywhere.
I'm not currently trying to make claims about what variants we'll actually be likely to specify, if that's what you mean. Just that in the reasonably broad set of situations covered by my theorems, the vast majority of variants of every objective function will make power-seeking optimal.
In "Invariances" picture 1 doesn't have any letter outcomes. In picture 2 there are outcomes a,b,c,d,e,f. However if one had a,b and not c,d,e,f (but instead bar and hug) then the tree would look symmetrical. It feels like the argument is assuming that if we have different level of possible detail level the detail is approximately equal across the modeled universe. It would seem if one has a more detailed ("gear level") model of one part and more approximate ("here be dragons") kind of model for another one, the importance of the understood part will overwhelm.
Yeah, that's right. (That is why I called it the "start" of a theory on invariances!)
I think that's an interesting frame which I'll return to when I think more about agents planning over an imperfect world model.
I wonder if you can (or should) make "power-seeking" a multidimensional factor - seeking power over some aspects of action and not needing it for others. To the extent that an agent is aligned with another, the power relationship is irrelevant - they're working together to seek the same states of the universe anyway.
In other words, "power" is really just the ability to enforce some amount of behavioral alignment on others. Power-seeking is obviously useful in a sea of unaligned humans, as you can force them to act more like how they would if they were aligned with you.
Edit: Thanks for pointing out my misunderstanding, Pattern. I mistakenly took "power-seeking" to mean mostly social power, rather than general prediction/optimization power.
Depending on how people operate, (more) alignment could have the same effect.
really just the ability to enforce some amount of behavioral alignment on others.
No, it's not. If you have a watch, that might give you more power (like the ability to know synchronize your actions with schedules (like when trains are)) if you don't already have a watch. But the power of the watch is not "really just the ability to [control] others". It's just a watch.
In my reading about the various usages of 'power', there are indeed definitions which focus on exerting control through other agents. I think in many situations, this is a useful frame, but I find "ability to achieve goals in general" to be both broader and also upstream of "ability to control others to achieve your goals."
(also - upvoted for asking a question and then editing to acknowledge a misunderstanding!)
Edit, 5/16/23: I think this post is beautiful, correct in its narrow technical claims, and practically irrelevant to alignment. This post presents a cripplingly unrealistic picture of the role of reward functions in reinforcement learning. Reward functions are not "goals", real-world policies are not "optimal", and the mechanistic function of reward is (usually) to provide policy gradients to update the policy network.
I expect this post to harm your alignment research intuitions unless you've already inoculated yourself by deeply internalizing and understanding Reward is not the optimization target. If you're going to read one alignment post I've written, read that one.
Follow-up work (Parametrically retargetable decision-makers tend to seek power) moved away from optimal policies and treated reward functions more realistically.
Environmental Structure Can Cause Instrumental Convergence explains how power-seeking incentives can arise because there are simply many more ways for power-seeking to be optimal, than for it not to be optimal. Colloquially, there are lots of ways for "get money and take over the world" to be part of an optimal policy, but relatively few ways for "die immediately" to be optimal. (And here, each "way something can be optimal" is a reward function which makes that thing optimal.)
But how strong is this effect, quantitatively?
In Environmental Structure Can Cause Instrumental Convergence, I speculated that we should be able to get quantitative lower bounds on how many objectives incentivize power-seeking actions:
About a week later, I had my answer:
Scaling law for instrumental convergence (informal): if policy set ΠA lets you do "n times as many things" than policy set ΠB lets you do, then for every reward function, A is optimal over B for at least nn+1 of its permuted variants (i.e. orbit elements).
For example, ΠA might contain the policies where you stay alive, and ΠB may be the other policies: the set of policies where you enter one of several death states.
(Conjecture which I think I see how to prove: for almost all reward functions, A is strictly optimal over B for at least nn+1 of its permuted variants.)
Basically, when you could apply the previous results, but "multiple times"FN: quotes, you can get lower bounds on how often the larger set of things is optimal:
And in way larger environments - like the real world, where there are trillions and trillions of things you can do if you stay alive, and not much you can do otherwise - nearly all orbit elements will make survival optimal.
I see this theory as beginning to link the richness of the agent's environment, with the difficulty of aligning that agent: for optimal policies, instrumental convergence strengthens proportionally to the ratio of control if you survivecontrol if you die.
Why this is true
Optional section.
The proofs are currently in an Overleaf; let me know if you want access. But here's one intuition, using the
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makes up at least 23 of the orbit elements for which strict optimality holds.Conjecture
Fractional scaling law for instrumental convergence (informal): if staying alive lets you do n "things" and dying lets you do m≤n "things", then for every reward function, staying alive is optimal for at least nn+m of its orbit elements.
I'm reasonably confident this is true, but I haven't worked through the combinatorics yet. This would slightly strengthen the existing lower bounds in certain situations. For example, suppose dying gives you 2 choices of terminal state, but living gives you 51 choices. The current result only lets you prove that at least 5050+2=2526 of the orbit incentivizes survival. The fractional lower bound would slightly improve this to 5151+2=5153.
Invariances
In certain ways, the results are indifferent to e.g. increased precision in agent sensors: it doesn't matter if dying gives you 1 option and living gives you n options, or if dying gives you 2 options and living gives you 2n options.
Similarly, you can do the inverse operations to simplify subgraphs in a way that respects the theorems.
This is the start of a theory on what state abstractions "respect" the theorems, although there's still a lot I don't understand there. (I've barely thought about it so far.)
Note of caution, redux
Last time, in addition to the "how do combinatorics work?" question I posed, I wrote several qualifications:
Let's take care of that last one. I was actually being too cautious, since the existing results already show us how to reason across multiple situations. The reason is simple: suppose we use my results to prove that when the agent maximizes average per-timestep reward, it's strictly optimal for at least 99.99% of objective variants to stay alive. This is because the death states are strictly suboptimal for these variants. For all of these variants, no matter the situation the agent finds itself in, it'll be optimal to try to avoid the strictly suboptimal death states.
This doesn't mean that these variants always incentivize moves which are formally POWER-seeking, but it does mean that we can sometimes prove what optimal policies tend to do across a range of situations.
So now we find ourselves with a slimmer list of qualifications:
It turns out to be surprisingly easy to do away with (2). We'll get to that next time.
For (3), environments which "almost" have the right symmetries should also "almost" obey the theorems. To give a quick, non-legible sketch of my reasoning:
So I don't currently view (3) as a huge deal. I'll probably talk more about that another time.
This should bring us to interfacing with (1) ("how smart is the agent? How does it think, and what options will it tend to choose?" - this seems hard) and (4) ("for what kinds of reward specification procedures are there way more ways to incentivize power-seeking, than there are ways to not incentivize power-seeking?" - this seems more tractable).
Conclusion
This scaling law deconfuses me about why it seems so hard to specify nontrivial real-world objectives which don't have incorrigible shutdown-avoidance incentives when maximized.
FN quotes: I'm using scare quotes regularly because there aren't short English explanations for the exact technical conditions. But this post is written so that the high-level takeaways should be right.
Thanks to Connor Leahy, Rohin Shah, Adam Shimi, and John Wentworth for feedback on this post.