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A1987dM20

True, their impact on daily life isn’t necessarily obvious if you’re living in a superpower protected by its nuclear umbrella (someone in Ukraine might feel differently).

Is nuclear deterrence actually still a thing at all? Has any conflict in the past quarter century or so played out any differently than would have if on 1 January 2000 aliens had permanently taken away humanity's ability to use nuclear weapons?

A1987dM*64

> Imprisoning someone for one year in the USA costs in the order of 100,000 dollars

There surely must be some way to decrease that by *at least* a factor of 4 or so, possibly by an order of magnitude, if we wanted to?  (The poverty line for a 8-person household in the contiguous US in 2025 is $54,150.)  Surely that might involve treating prisoners in rather questionable ways, but still way less questionable than f---ing killing them, IMO.

Another objection I have is that [waaay too many things are considered crimes that shouldn't be](https://archive.org/details/threefeloniesday0000silv) -- what fraction of people in prison are there for reasons comparable to any of your examples?

4romeostevensit
There are the predictable lobbies for increasing the price taxpayers pay for prisoners, but not much advocacy for decreasing it.
A1987dM20

And then some people felt like they still wanted to do research on what the original ambition of AI had been, and wanted a term that'd distinguish them from all the other people who said they were doing "AI".

And then at some point all the latter people switched to saying "machine learning" instead.

A1987dM40

(not necessarily -- glycerol, glycine and many fats are achiral, so the nutritional value of non-mirror food to mirror heterotrophs wouldn't be quite zero)

A1987dM40

And molds are heterotrophic too -- mirror molds would starve to death unless they found mirror carbs or mirror proteins to eat, right?

4A1987dM
(not necessarily -- glycerol, glycine and many fats are achiral, so the nutritional value of non-mirror food to mirror heterotrophs wouldn't be quite zero)
3ryan_greenblatt
I think you can add mirror enzymes which can break down mirror carbs. Minimally we are aware of enzymes which break down mirror glucose.
A1987dM90

BTW FWIW mirror viruses wouldn't be all that harmful to humans, as they cannot replicate or do much of anything else except if they infect mirror cells

4A1987dM
And molds are heterotrophic too -- mirror molds would starve to death unless they found mirror carbs or mirror proteins to eat, right?
A1987dM20

some kind of magical ritual, like signs against the evil eye or something

What's wrong with those? FWIW the only reason I didn't perform my country's favorite apotropaic gesture upon reading this story is that it didn't occurr to me

A1987dM4-1

200-person scam center

The content of the article at the other end of that link is the kind of stuff I would dislike in a work of fiction for being too on the nose 

2linkbowser12
I spent an hour this morning going through a bunch of articles on scam farms and I can say safely say I had no idea how bad it was for human trafficking victims. Like, embarrassingly unaware. 
A1987dM53

Well, it is extremely unlikely to actually help, but it's not like it will hurt either, and it doesn't cost anything, so why not?  Even if it's just the literary analog of knocking on wood or whatever, what's wrong with that?  At least, unlike literally knocking on wood, this does have at least a notional action mechanism...

(well, I guess knocking on wood must have had a notional action mechanism at first, but I can't be bothered to look that up)

A1987dM50

In Richard Owen's place I would have called them "dragons" rather than "dinosaurs".  I mean, we didn't rename atoms once we found out they didn't look much like Democritus or Dalton imagined them and the etymological meaning of their name doesn't actually apply to them...

1Sam Rosen
Same. It's especially true because if a knight saw a T-Rex he wouldn't hesitate to call it a dragon. He wouldn't be like, "What this is is ambiguous." 
2mako yass
Do people ever talk about dragons and dinosaurs in the same contexts? If so you're creating ambiguities. If not (and I'm having difficulty thinking of any such contexts) then it's not going to create many ambiguities so it's harder to object.
A1987dM30

Yes (though OTOH conversely there are also things that many Europeans struggle to afford but Americans take for granted, e.g. air conditioning)

1kvas_it
AFAIK, in the countries where air conditioning is useful people have it. I live in Germany and here we mostly think that it's not worth the noise pollution and making the facade less pretty. But this too might change now that many people are switching their gas heating to heat pumps (that are basically air conditioners with extra functionality).
A1987dM63

Note that there are plenty of things that count as "working hours" when white-collar workers do them but not when blue-collar workers do them.

4ChristianKl
Can you give examples?
A1987dM81

Yep, the first thing I thought after reading "this isn't actually possible to achieve in the real world" was "Yes it is!  See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_hypnosis, or that time I played in a concert while blackout drunk and I can only actually remember playing half of the set list."  The second thing I thought was "But did I actually have no qualia, or do I just not remember them?"  The third thing I thought was "Is there any way I could possibly tell, even in principle?  If there isn't, doesn't that mean that there's no actual difference between qualia and the formation of memories of qualia?"

A1987dM20

Am I the only one who, upon reading the title, wondered "do they mean arguments that conscious AIs would be better than unconscious AIs, or do they mean arguments that existing AIs are conscious?"

A1987dM20

Would you apply that to other examples of loss leaders too? When I buy a Ryanair ticket with no priority boarding, a randomly assigned seat and no luggage and don't buy anything on the plane, should I feel guilty because if everybody paid as little as me the flight wouldn't be net profitable for Ryanair? If not, what's the difference?

2Jiro
I'd ask you to estimate the distribution of the loss leader among customers and compare your usage of it to the average rate, and maybe the high end rate. I necessarily have to make up numbers, but I wouldn't be surprised if 50% of airline seats were cheap seats. It would then be impossible for you to use cheap seats at more than twice the rate of the average person. I'd also expect that even without you, there would be a substantial number of customers who use cheap seats all the time. If a substantial number use them all the time, you being a person that uses them all the time is not greatly far from what is expected. And I'd expect that the rate at which you take trips doesn't differ greatly from the rate at which those other people take trips. It's true that if everyone only bought cheap seats, the price structure would be unsustainable. But there's a big difference between something that would be unsustainable if everyone did it and something that would be unsustainable if done by even a relatively small number of people. If 5% of the population used public restrooms as often as a homeless person, public restrooms would become unsustainable, never mind "everyone". Also, some of the amenities in question are run by the government. The government doesn't do loss leaders; it doesn't let you camp out in public parks because it wants to attract more paying customers who incidentally might want to sleep there. It's a government, it runs on taxes.

I would instead choose a relatively light ‘this is not allowed’ where in practice we mostly look the other way

That is very seldom a good idea, for reasons detailed in https://siderea.dreamwidth.org/1209794.html (if euthanasia is outlawed, only outlaws will euthanize their patients) https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2007/04/formalist-manifesto-originally-posted/ (any circumstance where the actual norms don't match the ostensible norms can lead to uncertainty and/or disagreements on what exactly the former are, and you don't want that)

A1987dM105

Multiplying all this together gets you to a 1 in 80 million chance of all this stuff happening under the null hypothesis, which is highly significant. 

Not until you work out the chance of all this stuff happening under alternate hypotheses, and the prior probabilities of alternate hypotheses, and the prior probability of the null hypothesis.
(I asked random.org for 10 random bytes and I got 02 c8 c2 30 60 b3 2e 93 a6 e9 .  The chance of this happening under the null hypothesis is 1 in 1.2×10^24

4Roko
Under the alternate hypothesis, location, warnings, timing and specific features are all much more likely. It's probably something like 0.6^4 ~= 0.12 Priors for a lab leak vs a natural spillover are a bit harder, but we have examples of lab leak such as foot and mouth disease in the UK, other leaks of covid, etc. I think a reasonable prior for a lab leak is between 1% and 30% but priors are of course not something we can expect everyone to agree on.

"Being a physicist is a drag, but it still beats working" (Aurelio Grillo as quoted by Giorgio Parisi, translation from Italian mine)

I'm almost sure Sumerian had words for "artificial" and for "intelligence".

"Paracetamol" on the other hand... :-)

5Alexandre Variengien
One could also imagine asking a group of Sumerian experts to craft new words for the occasion such that the updated language has enough flexibility to capture the content of modern datasets.

I'm almost sure I saw a Wikipedia article about this back in the mid 2000s with a 2D version of your plot, but I can't find anything relevant in either https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies#Statistical_fallacies or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_paradoxes#Statistics ... did I just dream of it?

4Zack_M_Davis
You weren't dreaming!

 (it's hard to get curtains that block direct sunlight that well).

[These things](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Stellladen_Roll_fcm.jpg) are pretty much ubiquitous in Italy in buildings since circa 1970s, and [these ones](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Villa_Olmi_K.jpg) (which are somewhat less effective but still way better than a curtain) in earlier buildings.

I dunno...  IME, when someone not capable of steelmanning him reads e.g. David Icke, what usually happens is that they just think he must be crazy or something and dismiss him out of hand, not that they start believing in literal reptilian humanoids.

The ToC makes it looks like "blood donations" and "exercise" are among "things that will eventually kill you"...

(Not sure whether $50/day allows you to do this in San Francisco, but:) Live within walking/cycling distance of work, grocery stores, nightlife, museums, etc. so you won't have to drive a car every day.

Yeah, I often refuse giving people money for something I don't care about even if the impact of that on my wealth would be negligible just in order to not reward them.

98.: I don't think the link points where you wanted it to point

1Ideopunk
Fixed, thanks! 
A1987dM*50

My guess would be that:

  • the direct biological harms of alcohol are roughly linear, i.e. one drink a week is about 1/7 as harmful as seven drinks a week, which in turn is about 1/7 as harmful as forty-nine drinks a week;
  • the psychologically mediated benefits of alcohol (through reduced anxiety, improved socialization, etc.) quickly rise up to a few drinks a day, then plateau (and even reverse at very high doses)
  • when you subtract something like atan(x) from a straight line you may or may not get a minimum at x slightly greater than zero, depending on the slopes involved

(which I think is still not quite enough to make it obvious he's less dangerous than complete strangers on her way from the metro station back home unless she's in a third-world country, but still)

What do you think they might be tracking that Sinclair isn't?

e.g. his demeanor, and the way other people at the meetups who've known him for longer than she has treat him

0A1987dM
(which I think is still not quite enough to make it obvious he's less dangerous than complete strangers on her way from the metro station back home unless she's in a third-world country, but still)

I wonder whether there's a niche for generative AIs exclusively trained on works in the public domain...

A1987dM3-1

Roll back the thing whereby you not only can but automatically do upvote your own comments?

9Raemon
Recent karma doesn't count your self-upvotes.

Sounds like a solution in search for a problem TBH

I'm almost sure the energy you'd save in your lifetime by doing it the optimal way would be less than the energy you spent to write this post...

How 'bout "non-omnicidality"?

2gilch
Antiomnicidality? Antiomnicidism?
4Nathan Helm-Burger
That sounds like a good option for the fancy version to use in academic papers. Not so useful for wide audience public communication though.

(BTW, the term for this is "Muhammad Wang fallacy")

I opened the comments just to say that!

(Oleg and Olga are the masculine and feminine variants of the same name, which is nearly obvious from their spellings but you'd never guess that from their Russian pronunciations alone)

And Irish (Gaelic) has both! (/ɲ/ is slender ng, /nʲ/ is slender n)

...and my votes count twice because I have lots of karma, even though it's from eight years ago?

Wait... do I upvote my own comments by default now?

3Ben Pace
Yep! By-default your own comments start at either +1 or +2, and your own posts start with +n. Adds a bit of default sorting into the site. Pretty small effect IMO. (Announcement of strong upvoting is here.)
2A1987dM
...and my votes count twice because I have lots of karma, even though it's from eight years ago?

Do the Chinese verses in the last screenshot also rhyme, and are the English ones actually translations of them?

(If so, color me very impressed.)

Hello everyone, I used to have an account here a looong time ago which I had deactivated and I just realized I could undeactivate it.

2A1987dM
Wait... do I upvote my own comments by default now?
A1987dM40

I have been convinced that deleting my comments would be overkill, so I'm going to just delete my account, which will anonymize my comments, and hope that the permalink page title bug will be fixed.

I might come back here with a different username later.

Thanks to Baughn for their offered help.

Have a nice day.

A1987dM00

The nice thing about IF is that in many forms, it's dead easy: you eat nothing one day, twice as much the next.

A particular form of IF I've heard of from several places is even easier: only eat within an 8-hour window each day. I often do that out of sheer can't-be-arsed-to-have-breakfastness.

(I hear that existing studies about that are pretty confounded, e.g. they find that people who don't have breakfast are less healthy but the effect disappears when controlling for conscientiousness.)

A1987dM00
  • You might be underestimating P(X read that particular XKCD | I know X), as I am a physicist, and know a fair number of engineers and computer scientists and a few mathematicians;
  • you might be underestimating P(X continued to read enough of the site to stumble on my username | X was led to LW for the first time) -- I've commented a lot, including on many of the posts linked to on the about page and the welcome threads;
  • it's not motivated doxxing (which I know is very very unlikely) that I'm worried about -- comments which I would mind someone I know in mea
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A1987dM00

How many of said threats are not bluffs? I mean, I know that some of them aren't, but I can't get myself to alieve it.

2NancyLebovitz
So far as I know, these threats are quite common, but I haven't heard of any physical action being taken on them. If you haven't been on the receiving end of such threats, you may be underestimating the way you'd react to them. One thing people report is that they get frightened because there are people putting in a notable amount of effort to make them feel bad.
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