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I adjusted H to use heaviside's 1/2 convention, good catch.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limiting_density_of_discrete_points

 

log(infinite number) seems a promising avenue of investigation. also reminiscent of harmonic series--in euler's words-- its sum is the log of an infinite number. 

Alok Singh-20

Skipping context sure saved me a lotta time, and plus you gave a nice elab

shoe thrifting is meh for me because foot size

What sort of boots?

Alok Singh-20

Where to get shoes: Meermin

1mesaoptimizer
You are missing providing a ridiculous amount of context, but yes, if you are okay with leather footwear, Meermin provides great footwear at relatively inexpensive prices. I still recommend thrift shopping instead. I spent 250 EUR on a pair of new noots from Meermin, and 50 EUR on a pair of thrifted boots which seem about 80% as aesthetically pleasing as the first (and just as comfortable since I tried them on before buying them).

Ivan Karamazov ranting to his brother Alyosha about basically a cabal watching over the world, thought of herenow

From Goldblatt, since {0..H} is internal.

2tailcalled
Ok, so this sounds like it talks about cardinality in the sense of 1 or 3, rather than in the sense of 2. I guess I default to 2 because it's more intuitive due to the transfer property, but maybe 1 or 3 are more desirable due to being mathematically richer.

Gonna sleep bc 3 am but will respond later. Also the remark that hyperfinite can mean smaller than a nonstandard natural just seems false, where did you get that idea from?

2tailcalled
When I look up the definition of hyperfinite, it's usually defined as being in bijection with the hypernaturals up to a (sometimes either standard or nonstandard, but given the context of your OP I assumed you mean only nonstandard) natural n. If the set is in bijection with the numbers up to n, then it would seem to have cardinality less than n+1[1]. 1. ^ Obviously this doesn't hold for transfinite sizes, but we're merely considering hyperfinite sizes, so it should hold there.

I used compactness in recent comment reply. Hypernaturals are uncountable because they are bigger than all the nats and so can’t be counted. Whether cardinality of continuum is equivalent to continuum hypothesis

2tailcalled
This isn't the condition for countability. For instance, consider the ordering <ext of N∪{∞} where when n∈N then n<ext∞. This ordering has ∞ bigger than all the nats, but it's still countable because you have a bijection N→N∪{∞} given by 0→∞, n+1→n. Also countability of the hypernaturals is a subtle concept because of the transfer principle. If you start with some model M of set theory with natural numbers NM and use an ultrafilter to extend it to a model M∗ with natural numbers N∗, then you have three notions of countability of a set S: 1. M contains a bijection between S and NM, 2. M∗ contains a bijection between S and NM∗ (which is equal to N∗), 3. The ambient set theory contains a bijection between S and N. Tautologically, the hypernaturals will be countable in the second sense, because it is simply seeking a bijection between the hypernaturals and themselves. I'm not sure whether they can be countable in the third sense, but if N⊂NM[1] then intuitively it seems to me that they won't be countable in the third sense, but the naturals won't be countable in the third sense either, so that doesn't necessarily seem like a problem or a natural thing to ask about. Not sure what you mean here. 1. ^ Is it even possible for NM⊊N? I'd think not because but I'm not 100% sure.

I thought about this since. Bigger is not the right word. Complicated maybe? Like how the unit interval contains non-measurable sub intervals, or a compact set contains non-compact subsets.

Each number gets infinitesimal weight. Which infinitesimal is basically arbitrary.

P v NP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic-case_complexity

iLate reply, but the slicker bit is going in more fully. The appeal of the NSA approach here is axiomatizing it which helps people understand because people already know what numbers are, so 'inf big' is much less of a stretch than going the usual crazy inference depth math has.

This really benefits from a picture. Calling something “a nonstandard number” doesn’t really convey anything about them and a better name I’ll use is “infinitely big”, because they are.

< makes sense because the 2 chains are finite numbers and infinitely big numbers and an infinitely big number is bigger than any finite one because it’s , well, infinite. I can elaborate more technically, but I think trying to develop some numeracy for infinite numbers is a lot like learning about negatives and rationals and complex numbers. Just play with some expression... (read more)

2tailcalled
Trivially, a co-X in C^op is the same but flipped as an X in C. Then as you know, Stone duality says that CABA = Set^op. So a co-X in CABA is the same but flipped as an X in Set. (I think it works constructively too if one replaces Boolean with Heyting?)

I think there’s an implicit element of scale or one offness. For buying milk you have multiple samples as to good price. Even if any is contrived, the bulk still capture something real 

-3gwern
No, the bulk don't, because I buy milk a lot more often than I go on Wall Street and try to get cute with limit orders or manufacturing options or straddles on speculative merger/takeover targets or sign up to MoviePass or park while ignorant in NYC. The bulk of my life is buying milk, not speculating on Widgets Inc. And if I did those enough times to come anywhere near the number of times I've bought milk, so that 'the bulk' could potentially be any of those things, I would also not be doing it nearly as badly as OP postulates I would. (Because I would be, say, a market-maker like Jane Street, which makes a lot of money off doing that sort of thing.)

Train skill of noticing tension and focus on it. Tends to dissolve. No that's not so satisfying but it works. Standing desk can help but it's just not that comfortable for most.

that the functional analysis is mildly helpful for understanding the problem, but the focus of the field doesn't seem to be on anything helpful. VC dimension is the usual thing to poke fun at, but a lot of the work on regularization is also meh

Dissection tonight at Merritt College in Oakland, building S202. 5:30-9, you can pay by paypal. 

UCSF willed body program, on contract to Merritt College. 

(Something that came up yesterday, parens give the particular case.)

 

Have you spent a lot of time on a skill without a cap? (like math)?

Have you paid money for it? (math tutoring) 

 

How much?

 

How much have you paid towards a complementary unbounded skill (managing people, voice coaching). 

 

So yeah, between learning another hour of math and a voice coach, both at $~80/hour, is the marginal util of voice coach[1] way lower[2]?.

  1. ^

    Or whatever soft skill you would benefit from but don't do.

  2. ^

    way because estimates of utility are f

... (read more)

L1 and L infinity norm in another way:

 

see infinity as an unlimited integer N. The max property of the infinity norm 

will still hold.

I still wonder about the parity prediction these days. I feel like there's something there

2jsd
You may enjoy: https://arxiv.org/abs/2207.08799

Except that you can have a thread just for conversations. It subsumes the chat model.

The point is that such a distribution (uniform on countable infinite set like naturals), is not internal, and therefore external. it'll depend on the specific ultrafilter used under the hood.

for how to use it, see either alain roberts or sylvia wenmackers

1Alexander Gietelink Oldenziel
Could you give a sneak peak on how Sylvia /Alain use these uniform distributions?

fact: there is no set of all finite sets

4Richard_Kennaway
Although there is (in the usual ZFC setting) a set of all hereditarily finite sets (finite sets whose members are hereditarily finite).
2JBlack
In some set theories there is a set of all finite sets, so you'd need to specify a bit further which set theory you mean. It is a true claim for ZFC, one of the most commonly referenced set theories though.
1[anonymous]
finite set has finite number of elements. A set that includes all finite sets is a set that has infinite number of elements. Are you saying a set can't have infinite number of elements? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_set. Or are you saying  a set of all finite sets is not countable? Btw, on a separate tangent. Some of the stuff I've said are just my attempts at finding out what the colors in the color revolution means. At one point I thought black = bad, white = good, but then I realized that's not always the case. Sometimes, for some people, black = good, white = bad. Then I realized that it's context specific rather than an universal qualifier, like good/bad regarding a single quote I said or event as opposed to good/bad in terms of the overall judgement of character. By now, I have a good guess to what each color means, but I have different confidence intervals for each color. I understand that hat is the oppose of shoes, but I don't understand anything at all what the difference between shirt color and pants color are. Not a fucking single clue. I also have no idea if shirt layering is the same as pants/underwear layering and socks/shoes layering. I know that long sleeve shirt under a regular T-shirt means the same as a shirt under an open jacket. The parts of body that each piece of clothing doesn't really matter when it comes to layering relationships, at least on the same parts of the body. The basic process goes like this. If I see someone I know (I know them well or maybe not so well) wearing certain color, I will carefully observe if they change their clothing color next time. If they do, what is the reason. If I think they are wearing certain color because of something I said recently, I will try to say something that's the opposite of what I said to see if they will change their clothing color next time. I did this a lot when I first noticed this stuff happening around me, so mostly from 2019 to 2021. I also got confused many times regarding w

One way size goes seems to be:

Limited/finite, actual infinity (countable), potential infinity (uncountable/hyperfinite/compact regions).

On limited and uncountable inputs, we can define a uniform distribution naturally.

A uniform distribution on a countable set, there's no natural way to do that. So in a way, they're "bigger".

the nameless rationalist virtue (void)

Related: Ends of groups: a nonstandard perspective, Journal of Logic and Analysis, Volume 3:7 (2011), 1-28.

Ends are havens in pursuit games

Differential games lend themselves to a hyperfinite description. You can even have turns. Each player takes an infinitesimal move, then the other goes. A hyperdiscrete approach.

Observing your opponent becomes really important, like in a fight, soccer, or a relationship 😶. I have the intuition that the OODA loop falls out of this.

There's a classic game here where you run from a lion, and the optimum is running along a harmonic spiral since it's infinitely long. What would that look like under this?

2Slider
Relaxing the requirement that surreal number that left side should be less than the right side gets you "games"
1Alok Singh
Related: Ends of groups: a nonstandard perspective, Journal of Logic and Analysis, Volume 3:7 (2011), 1-28. Ends are havens in pursuit games

A while ago, I saw Dan Savage's film festival. As an intense art student ate 1000 condoms, a thought flashed. Many gears, all ticking. Click. Click. Clock.

And it hit me: every finite commutative group is a product of cyclic groups of prime power order, just like a prime factorization.

I still have no idea how that came in that context.

I was thinking the one corresponding to a unit circle, just the ordinary dot product.

Canon is probably the wrong word in a mathy context.

Also yes the infinitesimal neighborhood of the identity.

https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-642-33149-7

Also includes Feynman path integral and a few other things. Note that you don't even need the full nonstandard theory.

On any finite dim space we have a canon inner product by taking the positive definite one.

Monad is a synonym for infinitesimal neighborhood, common on the literature. Not the category theory monad.

Also hermeneutic lmfao

3Dacyn
-"On any finite dim space we have a canon inner product by taking the positive definite one." What? A finite dimensional space has more than one positive definite inner product (well, unless it is zero-dimensional), this choice is certainly not canonical. For example in R^2 any ellipse centered at the origin corresponds to a positive definite inner product.
1Alok Singh
Also yes the infinitesimal neighborhood of the identity.

What can 20k USD buy, including projects?

Edit: I live in Berkeley.

1nim
In what location and currency? 20k USD is slightly over the average annual salary for anyone in Ethiopia, for instance, so it could buy everything that an average earner there gets in a year. I'm in rural west coast US, and 20k is in the ballpark of what I'd budget for a new building like a medium prefab garage. I spent around 10k having an asphalt roof replaced by a good-quality steel one recently, and maybe 12k all told on building out a 10,000-gallon rain harvesting system. There are places where you can get a couple acres of land for 20k, but zoning and climate make it useful for almost nothing, and access will be bad. Your question as you've framed it, though, gives too few hints as to what sort of answer you're seeking.

I'll just say  for now. Basically wrapping up "is all this an elaborate simulation designed to convince me that pi = 12"

handy trick inspired by compactification: we can work with completed structures by adding endpoints and taking them away.

example: for a lattice, we can adjoin 0 and 1 as min/max elements by defining a structure where the sentences  and  are true for all  in the original structure, then do what we want, then delete 0 and 1.

handy hyperreal trick

 

take "the hilbert space" talked about in QFT. Set it to  where H is hyperfinite. Have fun. "Compact operators" fall out, and everything finitary is in there, but the whole thing isn't finite

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reading https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/formal+disk convinced me that there's something to my feeling that nonstandard analysis is similar to algebraic geometry.

 

formal disk ~ infinitesimal neighborhood/halo of a point ~ formal spectrum of power series, which extends prime spectra, one of the main concepts of algebraic geometry. any help here appreciated

 

 

Was being deliberately inaccurate here. Hard does mean more than a limited multiplier. Sudden means that there's an appreciable change over an infinitesimal variation aka discontinuous.

 

Lookup overflow, underflow, and "principle of permanence" in Goldblatt for why I'd do that. Also called overspill and underspill. The basic idea is "as above, so below" except this link is 2 way. Say some internal function has all infinitesimals in its range. Then it must have non infinitesimals too, since the set of all infinitesimals is known to be external, and images of internal functions over internal sets are internal. This is an example of overspill. Infinitesimal behavior has spilled over into the appreciable domain.

2Slider
"as above, so below" tends to be two way, atleast outside of mathematics.

Reread this and this is awesome: I didn't think of the case of multiple bars at all. As for the surreal stuff, I've read about them and while the lexicographic ordering is nice, the lack of transfer principle hurts. Are you in the bay?

2Slider
I think there are quite a lot of transfer principles going on. Atleast real to surreal and the hypernumber transfers have exact analogs (but might not have to the surreals that are not that kind of hypernumber). Would not be surprised if "hyperfinites" would be limited to ωx where x is finite (so ωω is actually too big to be a hyperfinite). I am not in the San Fransico bay area and it is not convenient for me to physically meet in America.
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