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I would like add, one should write every day and get vicious dispassionate feedback if one wishes to improve. Otherwise you are shouting in an empty canyon for the echo of your own voice.

The terrible habits I had were listed as follows. "Writing for the sound of it" This was later explained as writing the way I talk or writing to sound like speech and eschewing the more visually oriented prose. "Getting into the habit of appealing to the wrong audience." This is a pretty fair criticism and I do admit my style became more academic writing less for popular consumption. I cared less about a clever turn of phrase or a good hook than I cared about fitting the tone set out for the work. This led to the odd an unenviable ... (read more)

1JenniferRM
Interesting and appreciated! Especially since I may have both of those going on with my own writing... The latter critique sounds like "practice makes permanent" advice combined with particular taste about the quality of one's typical audience and your discourse intentions, which makes sense to me. LW seems to appreciate a sort of moralistic criticism, for example, and unless I consciously recalibrate, I've noticed that creeping into text where that's not helpful. I think I'm going to have to think about this one... The former critique, curiously, is something I've tried to do on purpose out of active preference since I was in about the 4th grade. My speech sometimes acquires elements of the formality of text, and I try to bring the bounce and emotion of speech to my text where appropriate. I like text like that. And speech like that. Was there a reason this habit was supposed to be bad, or was it just a "reflexive prescriptivism"? I tried googling and found that "writing for the sound of it" occurs in three places on the internet: this very thread, here, and here. My impression from context is that it has something to do with issues of status, tone-matching, and accidentally pushing people's buttons or falling on the wrong side of someone's textual shibboleth detector by accident? If you strip the personality out, I'd expect text to escape undue scrutiny, which seems helpful in some contexts, but if the personality survives or is exaggerated I'd expect strong reactions both ways, which seems helpful in other contexts. I went through a Tom Robbins phase in high school out of love for his ridiculous prose and vivid descriptions, but I know there are people who hate his stories for exactly the same elements.

I'm not sure if this is appropriate but like the original author I am unsure if a CEV is a thing that can be expressed in formal logic even if he brain were fully mapped into a virtual environment. A lot of how we craft our values are based on complex environmental factors that are not easily models. Please read Schall's "Disgust embodied as moral judgement" or J Greene's fMRI Investigation of Emotional Engagement in Moral Judgement. Our values are fluid and Non-Hierarchical . Developing values that have a strict hierarchy , as the OP says can lead to systems which can not change.

I appreciate the comment and there will be no more like this, but what could be done to this to make it good. Please be concrete.

5Alicorn
This post is not close enough to good-and-on-topic that a plan can be outlined to make it that way. It would be like trying to produce an outline of how to make a good LW post in full generality.
3Richard_Kennaway
The primary thing that would improve this piece would be to post it on your own blog instead of here. ETA: I see from another comment that it was. Well, this answers the question someone had of why so many LWers have their own blogs instead of posting all their rationality stuff here. Some things just work better as personal blog posts, even if they do otherwise fit the mission of LW.
-2Emile
Maybe make sure the first three sentences, and the title, actually tell the reader what the post is about? ... admittedly that last sentence kinda says what the post is about, but it's a bit vague. And the first two sentences don't bring anything at all, and don't catch the reader's attention either.

Yes, its from my blog earlier, its a revised version. I'm trying to tell the story of how and why I became a rationalist. Over mini camp I was asked this question many many times. It seems as though everyone had a rational reason for being a rationalist. This struck me as kind of weird because I have no idea how one has rationality before having rationality. Me I came to it irrationally, emotionally. But reversed stupidity is not intelligence. Distrust of the irrational was a cached thought of mine and one that had to be examined, merely distrusting the ir... (read more)

Not to get needlessly meta but this is the habit that I had been avoiding and am now breaking using Timeless Decision Theory. http://lesswrong.com/lw/4sh/how_i_lost_100_pounds_using_tdt/ . I used to write every day. I stopped a few years ago when a professor of mine told me it was building and reinforcing bad habits of mine. Since recently leaving academia and going back to being a freelancer I have found myself fearing the specter of the keyboard for anything but the most utilitarian of documents. So while I have kept up my level of production it has been... (read more)

6JenniferRM
I'm curious about the bad habits you mentioned. My daily routines involve lots of correspondence, note taking, and programming, and I've always assumed it was simply good to build high productivity habits around things of known utility in the area of "text emission". I'd be very interested to hear the details of a theory that explained a connection between "daily writing practices" and "an expert's abstract conception of good writing habits".
Benvolio120

I am not an island. There are a few good ways to set up a life of bounded bias or a rational decision about whether or not to engage in bias. I am a social creature and as such am acutely aware that most of my decisions are made as a mix of peer pressure, groupthink, discussions with friends, unconscious reasoning and whatever media I may have managed to digest in the past few hours. I have several friends, one of whom is a dedicated rationalist but a genuinely kind person, his name is Steve I have given him these instructions..::please give me unsolicited... (read more)

1MugaSofer
A good principal in general. If more people realized this, the world would be a better place, I should think. Hmm, I wonder if there's some snappy Wise Saying -esque way of formulating this