My guess is that the hard "Pause" advocates are focussed on optimizing for actions that are "necessary" and "sufficient" for safety, but at the expense of perhaps not being politically or practically "feasible".
Whereas, "Responsible Scaling Policies" advocates may instead describe actions that are "necessary", and more "feasible" however are less likely to be "sufficient".
The crux of this disagreement might be related to how feasible, or how sufficient each of these two pathways respectively are?
Absent any known pathways that solve all three, I'm glad peop...
Thanks for interesting post as usual, Zvi. As one of the new members of the Product team at Anthropic that you referenced (and commenting in a personal capacity, not representing my employer) I would like to offer that I endorse collaborative (or at least, communicative) community norms and I personally aim to regularly engage with folks across the community.
This week I will be talking to folks in person at the Berkeley AI impacts dinner, and at EAG Berkeley this weekend. I hope to meet some of you there.
I'll be there!
This content should probably be a wiki page, linked to the other meetup resources, right?
Update: the official kick off time is 7:30pm, but guests are invited to arrive from 7pm onwards.
This event is open to all
I'd like to gauge feedback, see how useful other organisers expect this information to be, and see if other organisers would be interested in contributing first, but in general, Yes.
Can anyone help with this one: Nonsocial Transient Behavior: Social Disengagement on the Greyhound Bus
See you all there!
Great post. I've made it a personal goal to attempt to find 5 high value participants for the Melbourne workshop, and I'll also provide support in the form of accommodation for CFAR instructors and volunteers before/after the February workshop.
Can't wait! For those who have celebrated finishing exams it should be a good one!
Attendance is Optimal.
I'd like to convey a message to anyone who has been considering attending a meetup but hasn't actually come.
I first considered coming to a Melbourne meetup 18 months ago, but ended up putting it off for almost 6 months, having read HPMOR and only one of the sequences. At the time I remember feeling a little like attending my first meetup had a pretty poor expected cost/benefit ratio: I didn't know where the venue was, know any of the people, felt like I wouldn't fit in, and it was on a Friday night! My range of uncertainty for the expected awesomeness of ...
I'll be there for sure, and have also invited a friend.
"And simply being able to notice your emotional state is rarer and more valuable than most people realize. For example, if you're in fight-or-flight mode, you're going to feel more compelled to reject arguments that feel like a challenge to your identity."
Can I have some specific examples that might help illustrate this point?
A hypothetical based on an amalgamation of my own experiences during a co-op:
...You work as a programmer at a company that writes websites with the programming languages VBScript and VB.Net. You have learned enough about those languages to do your job, but you think the Ruby language is much more efficient, and you write your personal programming projects in Ruby. You occasionally go to meetings in your city for Ruby programmers, which talk about new Ruby-related technologies and techniques.
You are nearing the deadline for the new feature you were assigned
Excellent work, Reuven, and good work on identifying the failure modes to avoid for next time.
It is absolutely more important to go out and try something, even at the expense of an imperfect lecture, and it was correct to treat this as an experiment. Because you expect to learn the most from the first event, and you went out planned and delivered three presentations in only 5 weeks, you now have significant evidence and experience which will help make whatever happens next more targeted and likely to succeed.
And in case you were too modest to share the lecture itself, the video recording can be found here: http://youtu.be/RumkLgp3Ug0
Not only will I attend, but I precommit to making it more likely that an awesome game of Zendo will happen. This was the first game I played at a LW social meetup and I hope our new attendees enjoy it.
I'm reposting an edit made by Matt as it didn't propagate back to this post.
The plan for this month has changed slightly. See http://lesswrong.com/r/discussion/lw/i2p/meetup_melbourne_practical_rationality/
More info to come this weekend.
Hey JayDee, awesome to hear from you. Don't be too harsh on yourself, we would have had fun today, but there's always next time!
Have we met at a meetup before?
where "it" == me attending.
You can count on it!
This event has been postponed. See http://lesswrong.com/meetups/o7 for replacement event this weekend.
The venue was unable to accomodate our booking so this event might be cancelled. Stay tuned.
For those that don't know how long they want to stay, the event will officially end at 2am, with most of the themed events taking place between 8pm and 11pm.
We have one double sized lounge room sofa-bed for late revellers.
Hi mira, we would absolutely love to have you! Most of the Melbourne Social events are sober affairs, and the drinking will be only a minor part of the evening for some of the participants. Come early if you want to get to know people while it is quieter.
Bonus upvote if you pre-commit below to a fictional persona.
Hi, I'm Brayden, from Melbourne Australia. I attended the May 2013 CfAR workshop in Berkeley about 1 year after finding Less Wrong, and 2 years after finding HPMOR. My trip to The States was phenomenal, and I highly recommend the CfAR workshops.
My life is significantly better now than it was before, and I think I am on track with the planning process for eventually working on the highest impact causes that might help save the world.
Was a widely impactful piece of work, beyond the bounds of the less wrong community