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4Gordon Seidoh Worley
Okay, you just doubled down, so clearly this discussion isn't going anywhere. It's also off topic anyway since it's not directly addressing the claims of this post. Please kindly refrain from continuing this line for discussion on this post. I'd welcome additional comments if you wanted to address the claims of the post directly, though.
We Can Build Compassionate AI
CRISPY-3-6

“Universal religion” has not taught or improved compassion or empathy. They teach that compassion and empathy are results of adhering to the religion. Membership confers the attributes of compassion and empathy, and minimizes or negates those attributes in non-members. 

Religions aiming at universality are inherently unaccountable and divisive political entities. They devalue and dehumanize non-members and present clear and direct threats against those who oppose them, or do not want to comply with behavioral standards established by the worst kind of ... (read more)

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4Gordon Seidoh Worley
Your claims overgeneralize and it makes them false. To assure I'm not just biased because I am religious myself, here's Claude's take on your comment when I asked it to fact check it. Prompt: can you fact check this comment that was posted to an online forum (not mine but i suspect it might not be correct but don't trust myself not to be biased so looking for your take) [your comment copied in] Response: Point 5 is obviously an artifact of me failing to give Claude context on what universal religion means, and I didn't define it in the article, but I think it's clear what I mean: religions that see it as their purpose to apply to all people, not just to a single ethnic group or location.
How to Make Superbabies
CRISPY6-3

From a sales perspective, I find myself bewildered by the approach this article takes to ethics. Deriding ethical concerns then launching into a grassroots campaign for fringe primate research into genetic hygiene and human alignment is nonstarter for changing opinions. 

This article, and another here about germ engineering, are written as if the concepts are new. The reality is that these are 19th century ideas and early attempts to implement them are the reason for the ethical concerns. 

Using the standard analogical language of this site, AI and... (read more)

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7TsviBT
You seem like you might have read and thought about this a fair bit. Is that the case? Would you be up for a conversation about the questions you raise here (maybe that we record and possibly post)? Some of my thoughts are here https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/DfrSZaf3JC8vJdbZL/how-to-make-superbabies?commentId=ZeranH3yDBGWNxZ7h and here (just a list of things that might go wrong) https://berkeleygenomics.org/articles/Potential_perils_of_germline_genomic_engineering.html.
6kman
The audience that needs to be convinced isn't the target audience of this post. But overall your point is taken.