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crybx40

Somewhere, recently, I saw someone comment almost in passing that grad school shouldn't cost anything. I can't find the source now. Maybe someone can clarify if that's a serious claim? I've been under the impression for a while that grad school and academia would be an awfully expensive way to acquire the prerequisite knowledge for AI safety work.

5Richard_Ngo
Expensive in terms of time, perhaps, but almost all good universities in the US and continental Europe provide decent salaries to PhD students. UK is a bit more haphazard but it's still very rare for UK PhDs to actually pay to be there, especially in technical fields.
crybx10

please assign the issue to yourself in github so people know someone is working on it.

It doesn't look like users can assign issues to themselves without being invited to be a contributor.

Link.

2Raemon
Ah, whoops. I'm actually not sure if I can change people's contributor status or change this policy (habryka might have some additional admin powers that I don't have). But for now, if you'd like to start working on an issue, just comment on it, and then I'll assign it to you (or maybe we'll just make do without officially having assignees).
crybx10

Now that I have a copy of the code running on my local machine, I was thinking of grabbing an issue to work on. (I can't promise any commitment level beyond one issue yet.) I'm trying to be thorough reading what docs there are, and I've come across the contributing guidelines which says to check out a roadmap (a Trello board) and join a Slack channel before working on anything. The Trello board doesn't make much sense to me and I'm not sure if either of these instructions are still important to follow, or if I really should just claim an unassigned issue with a 'good first issue' or 'help wanted' tag.

2Raemon
Ah, that's out of date. For now, consider this blogpost more authoritative than anything else until I fix some of the older docs (will try to do that soon). Here are the 'good first issues' : https://github.com/Discordius/Lesswrong2/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22good+first+issue%22
2Elo
As far as I know, go claim an issue.
crybx50

Adding the missing line fixed it! I have Lesswrong2 running successfully on Windows at http://localhost:3000/ now.

2Raemon
Huge thanks for all your debugging work! It's occurring to me we should probably have direct karma rewards for people who pitch in with the codebase. For now I just upvoted all your comments. :)
crybx50

This might be a good use case for someone to create a Docker image (or some other container) that has a development environment that just works for new users.

crybx30

If you try again, I think you can avoid needing bash. See my comment here.

crybx60

I got further than gjm reported.

I needed to:

  • Install Node (That link goes to the exact version listed in .nvmrc)
  • Install Python 2.7.whatever since I only had Python 3 before this.
  • Install Visual C++ 2015 Tools for Windows Desktop - This was the weirdest one, but after this, npm install works without error.
  • Install meteor

I learned that npm start is unnecessary. It runs a bash script that

1. checks meteor is installed

2. creates the file settings.json if it doesn't exist by copying from sample_settings.json

3. runs command meteor --settings settings.json

If... (read more)

2Raemon
Ah, there's actually a line missing from the sample-settings.json file, which I just added. If you git pull it should fix the "can't construct client" issue.
crybx20

Your comment was definitely worthwhile for me. Thanks to your very strong recommendation (and the fact that it doesn't look like it'll take much time), I'm going to check out the fast.ai course very soon. I'll be referencing back to this comment to check out your other recommendations in the future too. Thank you.

crybx30

I use Windows and intend to try to get this running on my machine.

Also, fyi, the first link to the GitHub repo in the tl;dr doesn't point to the right place.

5crybx
This might be a good use case for someone to create a Docker image (or some other container) that has a development environment that just works for new users.
6crybx
I got further than gjm reported. I needed to: * Install Node (That link goes to the exact version listed in .nvmrc) * Install Python 2.7.whatever since I only had Python 3 before this. * Install Visual C++ 2015 Tools for Windows Desktop - This was the weirdest one, but after this, npm install works without error. * Install meteor I learned that npm start is unnecessary. It runs a bash script that 1. checks meteor is installed 2. creates the file settings.json if it doesn't exist by copying from sample_settings.json 3. runs command meteor --settings settings.json If you have meteor installed and create settings.json yourself, you can skip npm start and just run meteor --settings settings.json I verified that I was able to successfully build and run the VulcanJS starter example by doing: * cd Vulcan-Starter code repo * run npm install * manually copy sample_settings.json to settings.json * run meteor --settings settings.json * I then had a website running at http://localhost:3000/ Additional info in the VulcanJS docs includes: This is what the C++ dev tools fixed. I don't know if something like npm install -g windows-build-tool would have fixed this or not. I didn't read this until afterwards. Also: But for LessWrong 2 I am stuck at an error that looks like https://pastebin.com/M1vqTMZd I think I'm stumped for now. I can clearly get the Vulcan Starter project running, just not LessWrong 2.
crybx20

It's always a bit amazing to me how much I don't have to remember to be able to work on big software projects. It's like as long as I know what's possible, and when it's applicable, it takes only moments to search for and zero in on specific implementation details.

And yet in this situation, some anxious voice in my head cries, "But do you really know what you're doing if you can't remember every detail?!"

So thank you for reassurance on that. Also, thank you for the recommendations!

crybx50

I'd call delicious food a lotus for me. Sometimes it feels so easy for me to fall into addictions that I could get addicted to cereal.

Palatable food may indeed highjack things in our brains leading to negative consequences.

I've also personally found that always eating delicious foods will make me subconsciously start looking for food in moments of boredom.

I do think it's important to experience pleasures in life, and delicious food is a great treat, but like too many things in our lives, our food supply is being engineered to superstimulus l... (read more)

1zulupineapple
Feel free to substitute food with any other common short-term pleasure. Yes, it's probably possible to develop an unhealthy relationship with anything. But does that make every pleasure a lotus? If it does then "lotus" isn't a useful term.
crybx80

Intuitively seeing things as being like the pie graph is why the birds example for scope insensitivity doesn't feel like a case where I should try to do anything differently. Maybe I only have an ~$80 budget to care about birds because I can't smash a bigger slice into my pie of caring.

crybx40

This might read like confident advice, but it's mostly just the strategy I've been using because it seems sensible to me.

For any of these topics with dedicated books (especially ones recommended as high quality), there will be proofs presented along the way while reading them. Don't just read the proofs. Try pausing before you read/understand the proof and try to work out how you would prove it yourself. Then read (and maybe re-read) until you think you get it, and try to prove it again without looking back at the material.

Keeping a list of ... (read more)

crybx110

I think that satisficing is sometimes the right way to approach tasks. I would classify a whole slew of tasks as not super important but still needing to be done. It isn't always worth it to pour energy into everything you do. As someone who errs on the side of perfectionism too often, I find the concept of succeeding with no wasted motion to be a sanity saver.

4alkjash
Absolutely, I think doing things more quickly and cleanly than demanded is also (and perhaps the correct) a form of succeeding with abandon. I was referring to the many situations where you're stuck in an activity anyway after the "outcome" is already clear (e.g. a won game). Making the most of these situations is helpful.
crybx10

I feel similarly to what you expressed in your first paragraph, and somewhat similar to your third. When I realize certain people can't stand being alone, I imagine them as someone who has no idea what to do with themselves. I feel like my brain is highjacked if I'm not given enough alone time to process my thoughts, and that parts of me are never fully expressed until I am alone.

Maybe this means I need to improve my social circle?

Your observation of the Buddhist "no self" claims seems to me like a misunderstanding due to different defi... (read more)

7Richard_Kennaway
Is that different from saying that a car does not exist, because it's made from a bunch of separate modules? And what of the modules, that are made of smaller parts, all the way down to atoms, quarks, and whatever may lie below those? I don't see a level to stop once you say that a thing does not exist because it is made of parts. I go with the view that a car does exist, and so do I, even though I am made of parts.
crybx10

After reading your Mythic Mode post, and before seeing this comment, I was trying to think of a possible mythic mode name for this other than Omega. Hermaeus Mora, a Lovecraftian-like being from the Elder Scrolls video game series, overpowers any other ideas in my head:

Hermaeus Mora, also known as Hoermius, Hormaius, Hermorah, Herma Mora, and The Woodland Man is the Daedric Prince of knowledge and memory; his sphere is the scrying of the tides of Fate, of the past and future as read in the stars and heavens. He is not known for being good or evil; he seems
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crybx40

This sentiment seems opposed to what others have expressed. Mixed messaging is part of why I've been confused.

Aspiring rationalists could benefit from a central place to make friends with and interact with other rationalists (that isn't Facebook) and welcoming 2) seems like it would be a way to incentivize community, while hopefully the Archipelago model limits how much this could lower LW's main posts' standards.

I notice that when I write about rationality adjacent things, it most often comes out as a story about my personal experience... (read more)

6Qiaochu_Yuan
It seems like my sense of what "worth everyone's attention" means is pretty different from others and that's part of the miscommunication. I take as given that people are already mostly reading garbage most of the time, on Facebook or LW or Reddit or wherever else. So my bar for "worth everyone's attention" is relative, not absolute: not whether this thing I'm writing is worth everyone's attention in some absolute sense, but whether it's better than the garbage it's displacing. This is not a very high bar! Also, for what it's worth, I think stories about personal experiences are great and we should have more of them.
crybx170

I'm confused about what sort of content belongs on LW 2.0, even in the Archipelago model.

I've been a lurker on LW and many of the diaspora rational blogs for years, and I've only recently started commenting after being nudged to do so by certain life events, certain blog posts, and the hopeful breath of life slightly reanimating LessWrong.

Sometimes I write on a personal blog elsewhere, but my standards are below what I'd want to see on LW. Then again, I've seen things on LW that are below my standards of what I expect on LW.

I'... (read more)

Raemon130

An issue I currently notice with Personal Blogposts is that they serve two purposes, which are getting conflated:

1) blogposts that don't meet the frontpage guidelines (i.e. touching upon politics, or certain kinds of ingroupy stuff), but which you expect to be worth the time and attention of people who are heavily involved with the community.

2) blogposts that you aren't making a claim are worth everyone's attention.

Right now there's a fair amount of posts of type #1, which means if you want to stay up to date on them, you need to viewi... (read more)

habryka230

The idea is indeed that you are welcome to post about whatever you want on LW, and as we get more and more content, we will make people's personal blogs less visible from the frontpage, and instead add subscription mechanisms that allow people to subscribe to the specific people they want to follow (which they will see in addition to the frontpage discussion).

We are planning to turn off the ability to lose and gain global-karma for personal blogposts in the near future, though we are still planning to allow people to upvote and downvote content (thou... (read more)

crybx10

I'm a software engineer and my degree in college required a good chunk of advanced math. I am currently in the process of trying to relearn the math I've forgotten, plus some, so I'm thinking that if this analysis/algebra dichotomy points at a real preference difference, knowing which I am might help me choose more effective learning sources.

But I find it hard to point to one category or another for most aspects. Even the corn test is inconclusive! (I agree that it sounds more like an analysis thing to do.)

  • I love the step-by-step bits of alg
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crybx30

Eating corn on the cob is messy and gets stuff stuck in my teeth. It’s also slow. I always find a knife (even just a plastic butter knife), cut the corn off, and eat it with a fork or spoon. What category does that fit in? Until I started doing this, I think I kept experimenting with eating in different patterns. I have no idea what it’s like to eat corn without trying to optimize the process.

2gjm
My feeling is that that's probably analysis-style rather than algebra-style. (Even though the actual order of corn-kernel removal is more like that of algebraists.) Are any of the other distinctions that allegedly correlate with it ones that you can match up with your life? Of course they won't be if you're not a mathematics/software type. (It would be very interesting to know whether the algebra/analysis divide among mathematicians is a special case of something that applies to a much broader range of people, and corn-eating might be a way to explore that. But I don't think cornology is far enough advanced yet to make confident conjectures about what personality features might correlate with different modes of corn-eating.)
crybx20

I would be wary of thinking of social roles as a market. There's something about social interactions that isn't market related, and bringing up prices seems to be able to make people's relationships less fulfilling. At least according to Dan Ariely in the book Predictably Irrational.

"...once a social norm is trumped by a market norm—it will rarely return."

Quick Googling of market vs social norms (or some variation on that) brought up tons of links, but this one does an okay job of summarizing what the book said about it:

https://n... (read more)

9cousin_it
Agree with the second part - trade is low status (because it means people aren't rewarding you for inherent qualities). Disagree with the first part - trade is still what's going on, just not with money. It's always a good idea to understand what the other person is buying from you and at what price. The world is full of people who thought they were being rewarded for inherent qualities. Then they accidentally withdrew the thing that was being traded, and lost relationships as a result. Eliezer had a nice essay about it recently.
crybx50

I know all models are wrong, and some are useful. But in every day life, I find myself thinking of my brain in two parts that are roughly A) my beam of attention and B) my everything else. This doesn't seem to be totally captured by the other divisions and metaphors mentioned. Both A and B feel like *me*.

My attention (A) feels a lot like a beam of light that can be narrow, wide, dim, or even off. My everything else seems to include my subconscious, the answers that pop into my head without effort, the habits I execute by rote, internal dialogue that c... (read more)

crybx50

This post impressed me, I think, because it didn't start out saying there was a prototype. I may have stopped reading at "prototype" if that line came first. There's a huge "blech" factor for me at the idea of giving feedback on yet another partially created bit of software.

Reading the ideas about what the tool would (hopefully) do had me thinking, "this sounds cool, but is anyone ever going to actually make it?"

Then, near the end, the prototype is revealed. I thought, "Wow. Huh. I'm impressed they didn't just talk about an idea that never goes anywhere. They executed. And the prototype seems neat when I play with it."

crybx200

As 2018 began, I started thinking about what I should do if I personally take AI seriously. So your post is timely for me. I've spent the last couple weeks figuring out how to catch up on the current state of AI development.

What I should do next is still pretty muddy. Or scary.

I have a computer engineering degree and have been a working software developer for several years. I do consider myself a "technical person," but I haven't focused on AI before now. I think I could potentially contribute to AI safety research. If I spend some tim... (read more)

Vaniver130

[Context: I'm Matthew Graves, and currently handle a lot of MIRI's recruiting, but this is not MIRI's official view.]

We're hiring engineers to help with our research program, which doesn't require extensive familiarity with AI alignment research.

When reading through research guides, it's better to take a breadth-first approach where you only go deep on the things that are interesting to you, and not worry too much about consuming all of it before you start talking with people about it. Like with software projects, it's o... (read more)

3[anonymous]
I think you're right in that getting additional feedback (bouncing stuff of) is good. Unfortunately, my rough sense right now is that things are geographically constrained (e.g. there's stuff happening at CHAI in Berkeley, FHI in Oxford, and DeepMind in London, but not a lot of concentrated work elsewhere.) If you're in the bible belt, my guess is Roman Yampolskiy is probably the closest (maybe?) person who's doing lots of stuff in the field. Speaking from my experience with CFAR (and not in any official capacity whatsoever), I think the AI Fellows tends to be held once a year in the summer/fall (although this might change w/ add'l funding), so that's maybe also a ways off. I'd encourage you, though, to reach out to people sooner than later, as you mention. It's been my experience that people are helpful when you reach out, if you're genuine about this stuff.
crybx30

I think you're describing a very useful mindset here. I've used it myself, rather explicitly, by saying things like, "Okay. So what do we do now?" But something about the wording of, "Here we are" or "Hwa", even in your example uses, strikes me as appearing dismissive. I can't pinpoint exactly why. It reads/sounds like a shrug. I don't think I would ever use this phrasing with anyone who didn't already know of it, because I wouldn't want to give the impression that I'm dismissing the other person's emotions.

crybx10

I would not personally use the phrases "it is/things are/whatever is okay." But one way reacting like "it's not okay" could look is the instinct to make reality retrospectively not be how it is. Denial. We can affect the future, but there's no use denying what already is.

If the first thing you do is interpret that new info would make the world a bad place (moralizing reality), you may flinch into rationalizing ways it can't be so before you even notice what you did.

I don't claim that I gained this skill of ‘Looking’ ... (read more)

crybx30

I'm late to this comment thread. I had to read a lot of the comments (more than once) before it clicked in a way that I'm fairly sure *I recognize what Looking is* and that I already have the skill and use it more than I think is common (but not always or consistently).

"I can form deep, deep pacts with others who know how to Look. This is harder to explain, but I can point to an analogy clearly, I think: if you're in the cell phone world and you see someone else who has figured out how to look up, there's a kind of deep collaborati... (read more)

3Said Achmiz
Re: “it’s okay”: Can you say what it would mean for ‘it’ to not be ‘okay’? (This has been asked already in another thread, but I have not seen an answer.) In other words, “it’s okay”… as opposed to what? Or, to put it yet another way: I—as far as I know—do not have this ‘Looking’ skill that we’ve been hearing about. I have certainly never meditated, experienced enlightenment, taken hallucinogenic drugs of any sort, or done anything else which might trigger “non-symbolic experiences” of a similar sort (to use the terminology from the paper linked elsethread). However, I also don’t find myself “freaking out”, “moralizing reality”, or otherwise having any sense that ‘it’, or things-in-general, are “not okay”. Should I? What am I missing? Edit: To add yet another rephrasing of my question: presumably, you have gained this skill of ‘Looking’ at some point, prior to which time you did not possess it. What, exactly, was “not okay” before that, and how?
crybx40

What is "counter anxiety"? If your seed never makes it to a post, I'd like to at least have this clue.

Example: You get anxious about being unwanted, so you ask for friends for reassurance frequently. Eventually it occurs to you being asked to reassure all the time is annoying, so you develop anxiety around asking. This solves the immediate problem of annoying your friends, but the underlying anxiety is still there. So at best, this creates more suffering than actually resolving the problem. But there may actually be a worse thing going on, where you're reinforcing the use of anxiety as the mechanism to change your behavior, instead of learning new ones.

crybx50

I read the book almost 2 years ago. I also remember struggling to pinpoint what language would fit the way I want to experience love. For me, I want mental intimacy. "Being seen" is maybe a way of saying something similar, but I don't know for sure if you mean the same thing.

For me this means:

  • Ability to discuss anything. Nothing is off the table.
  • Feeling comfortable revealing the things you normally mask for the rest of the world.
  • Interest in ideas the other has and their mental processes.
  • The desire to actually talk about things.
  • No knee j
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2Viliam
This could be a sixth language of love, perhaps not described in the book because it is quite rare in real world (probably only happens among nerds). I find myself somewhere in the middle between what the book describes and what you describe. Both the physical touch and the ability to discuss anything are very important to me. (On the other hand, gifts don't mean anything, and spending too much time together can even feels creepy. I'd rather have my partner also spend some time doing their own hobbies; that makes the following conversations more interesting.)
crybx10
"Now, I have no idea how scared it's actually appropriate to be about this. In politics, and journalism, we're incentivized to stories that freak us out and exaggerate risks."

I'm struggling with exactly this right now regarding the North Korea stuff. When I'm scared, I can't tell if I'm overreacting. When I'm not scared, I can't tell if I'm underreacting. There are precautions I could be taking to make my own survival more likely in the event of a bombing, but those precautions would be a big waste of ... (read more)

crybx60

I am curious how everyone would be able to go about trying modafinil. I've been interested in trying it for a long time, but I can't bring myself to attempt a sketchy internet order.

4philh
Years ago in London, we had one person do a bulk sketchy internet order (legal at the time), and then distribute it (less legal).