Was a philosophy PhD student, left to work at AI Impacts, then Center on Long-Term Risk, then OpenAI. Quit OpenAI due to losing confidence that it would behave responsibly around the time of AGI. Now executive director of the AI Futures Project. I subscribe to Crocker's Rules and am especially interested to hear unsolicited constructive criticism. http://sl4.org/crocker.html
Some of my favorite memes:
(by Rob Wiblin)
(xkcd)
My EA Journey, depicted on the whiteboard at CLR:
(h/t Scott Alexander)
The author is "Ellis Elms." Hmm.
I made this post because I wanted to link to the image on substack and couldn't put the image in there directly.
But yeah, the takeaway I got from this toy model is that the time horizon will be exponential until the last couple of doublings before it goes infinite. (Well, that's what happens if half the progress is coming from imrpoved intercept and half from improved slope. The more it comes from improved slope, the more straightforwardly superexponential it is. In the real world I don't think we have much of a clue yet where the progress is coming from.)
If you feel like I am falling short of your ideals, I'd be interested to hear it. I'm trying to live up to them basically. it's not my top priority, i'm not trying hard, but it matters to me.
Related previous work: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QEBFZtP64DdhjE3Sz/self-awareness-taxonomy-and-eval-suite-proposal
Summary of previous work below:
Interesting, thanks! Why though? Like, if a massive increase or decrease in investment would break the trend, shouldn't a moderate increase or decrease in investment bend the trend?
The first graph you share is fascinating to me because normally I'd assume that the wright's law / experience curve for a technology gets harder over time, i.e. you start out with some sort of "N doublings of performance for every doubling of cumulative investment" number that gradually gets smaller over time as you approach limits. But here it seems that N has actually been increasing over time!
(adding to what bhalstead said: You are welcome to stop by our office sometime to chat about it, we'd love to discuss!)
Personally I agree that 125 years is complete overkill for automation of enough coding for the bottleneck to shift to experiments and research taste. That's a big part of why my parameter is set lower. However I want to think about this more. You can find more of my thoughts here.
Huh, I think continual learning would be a pretty big deal w.r.t. AI danger. Can you say more about why it wouldn't? Seems like it would dramatically increase horizon lengths for example.
Back when many expected takeoff in 2027 or so, it was pretty reasonable to assume that the probability of a conflict entirely unrelated to AI was low.[3] But the forecasters behind AI 2027 now expect takeoff in the 2030s.
I'm saddened that this is the takeaway from our new model! It seems misleading. Here is a graph of my+Eli's timelines over time:
https://x.com/DKokotajlo/status/1992316620254155028
Doesn't it mean that the last stage of the process takes a few orders of magnitude longer, not the whole process? The process consists of a series of N doublings. For all but the last... 7 or so doublings, the waste heat can be dumped into Mercury itself. Only for those last doublings does waste heat start to overheat Mercury. Right? So it's just that those last 7 doublings or so need to slow down (or rather, stop growing exponentially)
More interesting proposal: Maybe actually a better strategy would be to just deliberately overheat Mercury at that point, turn it into an expanding cloud of superhot gaseous material, and then scoop up said material as it cools down? Not sure if that's possible, maybe the cloud wouldn't expand enough.
Another interesting proposal: Smash Mercury to bits by colliding other objects like Ceres into it.
Another, more practical proposal: Once Mercury is saturated (can't double any more without overheating it) switch to mining those cold asteroids out in the asteroid belt, with your giant fleet of spaceships you've built with the infrastructure that blankets Mercury and orbits the Sun. The asteroids are all spread out, so it's easier for them to radiate heat... right?
Just spitballing here.