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The hard problem is, how do you differentially get the screen time you want?

With grave difficulty. :-(

My partner has tried to break her phone addiction more than once, and always runs into the same issue: necessary inputs arrive through the same channel as the dopamine drip. It's hard to define notification filters that only pass items that matter. It's hard to find a device that can be efficiently used for travel directions, job coordination, emergency phone calls, and e-books, but not for Instagram, Youtube, et al.

I'm grateful to be mostly immune to ... (read more)

1Dirichlet-to-Neumann
There are maps now that can completely lock up the use of some specific applications or websites. Digital Detox for example has all the basic functionalities you expect and is free.

Memento Errata

I love this phrase. It could practically be a LW motto, or a title for some adjacent project, or something like that. It's even self-referencing -- or at least, Claude tells me it's grammatically incorrect, and that feels appropriate.

6JenniferRM
Haha! I really hope I don't have to start running everything I write through a slave Mentat to avoid avoidable errors. What a deontic double bind that'd be <3
Answer by Error50

I suspect this varies by event, and also what you think of as "value". At LessOnline I got a large fraction of the value out of side conversations, but that value mostly wasn't in the form of practical benefits; the kinds of conversations on offer were simply extremely scarce in the rest of my personal life.

OTOH, at Dragoncon I get most of the value from structured events and the general sense of being-among-one's-tribe. It's crowded and anonymous, making private conversations difficult, and I know plenty of other fans in my everyday life, so there's not t... (read more)

I enjoyed the hell out of LessOnline and would love to go to this too. I'm not sure yet if I can make the budget work; is anyone I met at LO looking for roommates?

Every year I have run the Rationalist Megameetup [...], we’ve run out of space and I’ve had people ask if they can come anyway. We could limit the size by taking applications and turning people away.

I thought about this after LO -- overcrowding is an attractor state for conventions -- and wondered if overcrowding could be managed by dynamic pricing. If you know the size of the space, it feels... (read more)

3Screwtape
I don't know who you met at LessOnline, but there's a few people looking for roommates. There's a Discord server for attendees with a Finding Roommates channel. The way I envision this working is people show up in Discord, introduce themselves, and ask if anyone wants to room together. Once people have grouped up, one of them rents the room and the other reimburses them. This involves a bit more lateral trust than last year where people indicated how many roommates they were comfortable with, paid me for their share of the room, and I sorted people together. On the other hand it allows for a bit more choice and offloads a bit of setup from me to the attendees, which is increasingly useful as megameetup scales up. 
1nick lacombe
there's a channel in the megameetup discord to discuss shared rooming. I think the discord might only be available to registered participants though (you could ask Screwtape in case I'm wrong)

Not sure of the title. The tagline was "almost no one is evil; almost everything is broken." The address was http://blog.jaibot.com. Some specific essays originating there were "500 million, but not a single one more," "Foes Without Faces", and "The Copenhagen Interpretation of Ethics".

3dirk
It's been moved to https://laneless.substack.com/ .
Answer by Error51

First blog that comes to mind is Jai's old one. A fair number of rationalist memes began there, I think, but it disappeared at some point. I'm not sure if it was rehosted elsewhere or what.

2Arjun Panickssery
What was it called

I can’t imagine integrating any of those things into my normal, day to day routine unless the content of what I was doing were, in normal course, exposed only to me.

I've had something like this issue. The places I most want to use LLMs are for work tasks like "refactor this terribleness to not be crap", or "find the part of this codebase that is responsible for X", or "fill out this pointless paperwork for me"; but I'm not going to upload my employer's data to an LLM provider. Also, if you're in tech, you might want to apply for a job at an AI company. ... (read more)

4Viliam
I think my productivity at work would be most dramatically increased not by auto-completing my code (although that too would be nice) but rather by reading all the company Confluence pages and providing short summaries in plain language, connecting together information that is split into dozens of unconnected pieces, each of them written in a different place and often requiring different access rights. Maybe even more by reading all the existing code and configuration files, and updating the documentation with something that is actually true and can be interpreted unambiguously.

Yeah, it's okay, conveying visuals is a legitimately not-terrible reason for it. My gripe with the trend just jumped to the front of my brain because I tried to C+P something and got a mouseful of image instead.

I feel dumb asking, but...what's the significance of "Stanley Peterson?" Google turns up no relevant hits on the name. Is it just an Americanized version of Petrov's?

I'm sorry I missed out on this. I follow the site with a feed reader, so I never saw the button. :-( Oh well, perhaps next year.

[edit]: Also, from the major-psychotic-hatreds department but not directed at you in particular: What is with the trend of the last 5-10 years of posting screenshots of text instead of quoting the actual text? It breaks copy/paste, ctrl-f, and anything that relies on the text actually being....text. It drives me up the wall every time I see it.

6Raemon
Stanley Peterson is just a (somewhat silly but surprisingly reasonable) Americanized version of Stanislav Petrov. (Peter and Petrov apparently both mean "rock", not sure about Stanislav offhand). Sorry about screenshot-itis. In this case I think Ben wanted to convey the visuals of what the participants saw, and in general it's just easier to copy-paste without screwing up formatting (I think it's also incentivized due to various social media algorithms rewarding pictures)

It's not obvious to me that those are the same, though they might be. Either way, it's not what I was thinking of. I was considering the Bob-1 you describe vs. a Bob-2 that lives the same 40 years and doesn't have his brain frozen. It seems to me that Bob-1 (40L + 60F) is taking on a greater s-risk than Bob-2 (40L+0F).

(Of course, Bob-1 is simultaneously buying a shot at revival, which is the whole point after all. Tradeoffs are tradeoffs.)

[epistemic status: low confidence. I've noodled on this subject more than once recently (courtesy of Planecrash), but not all that seriously]

The idea of resurrectors optimizing the measure of resurrect-ees isn't one I'd considered, but I'm not sure it helps. I think the Future is much more likely to be dominated by unfriendly agents than friendly ones. Friendly ones seem more likely to try to revive cryo patients, but it's still not obvious to me that rolling those dice is a good idea. Allowing permadeath amounts to giving up a low probability of a very go... (read more)

2avturchin
I think low-quality resurrections by bad agents are almost inevitable – voice cloning by scammers is happening now.  But such low-quality resurrections will lack almost all my childhood memories and all fine details. But from pain-view (can I say it?) it will be almost like me, as in the moment of pain fine-grained childhood memories are not important.  Friendly AIs may literally till light cones with my copies to reach measure domination, so even if they are 0.01 per cent of total AIs, they can still succeed (they may need to use some acausal trade between themselves to do it better as I described here). 
2Mati_Roy
i don't think killing yourself before entering the cryotank vs after is qualitatively different, but the latter maintains option value (in that specific regard re MUH) 🤷‍♂️

This trips my too-good-to-be-true alarms, but has my provisional attention anyway. The main reasons I'm not signed up for cryonics are cost, inconvenience, and s-risks. Eliminating cost (and cost-related inconveniences) could move me...but I want to know how this institution differs such that they can offer such storage at low or no cost, where others don't or can't.

1frankybegs
Is the argument for the s-risk concern just basically that the suffering in some scenarios could be so great that you have to get sort of Pascal mugged? Or is there reason to think there actually a significant probability of extreme suffering scenarios?

I mean, it's not a big secret, there's a wealthy person behind it. And there's 2 potential motivations for it:
1) altruistic/mission-driven
2) helps improve the service to have more cases, which can benefit themselves as well.

But also, Oregon Brain Preservation is less expensive as a result of:
1) doing brain-only (Alcor doesn't extract the brain for its neuro cases)
2) using chemical preservation which doesn't require LN2 (this represents a significant portion of the cost)
3) not including the cost of stand-by, which is also a significant portion (ie. staying ... (read more)

7Cleo Nardo
I don't understand the s-risk consideration. Suppose Alice lives naturally for 100 years and is cremated. And suppose Bob lives naturally for 40 years then has his brain frozen for 60 years, and then has his brain cremated. The odds that Bob gets tortured by a spiteful AI should be pretty much exactly the same as for Alice. Basically, its the odds that spiteful AIs appear before 2034.
0avturchin
Against s-risk concern: Hostile low-quality resurrection is almost inevitable (think about AI scammers who clone voices), so better to have high-quality resurrection by non-hostile agent who may also ensure that resurrected you have higher measure than your low-quality copies. 

I loved Project Lawful/Planecrash (not sure which is the actual title), but I do hesitate to recommend it to others. Not everyone likes their medium-core S&M with a side of hardcore decision theory, or vice-versa. It is definitely weirder than HPMOR.

Something that threw me off at first: it takes the mechanics of the adapted setting very literally (e.g. spell slots and saving throws are non-metaphorical in-universe Things). That's not normal for (good) game fanfiction. The authors make it work anyway -- perhaps because clear rules make it easier to prod... (read more)

In principle, you can solve this with gpg-signed messages (the message could be as simple as "yes, that's me you're talking to on the phone"). Anyone you give your public key to can verify anything you sign.

...the problem, of course, is persuading anyone else to use gpg. Good luck with that part. :-(

Oh, finding less-partisan circles isn't the issue. I could do that; what I can't do is find circles pre-populated with people I've known and trusted for 20+ years, or with family. Those aren't relationships I'm eager to migrate away from.

Anyway, I was (perhaps ironically) more venting than looking for suggestions. I've found ways to deal with it, and this, too, shall pass. Thanks though.

Well this is relevant to my life. -_- I'm torn between feeling validated that someone else is bothered by this behavior, and annoyed that I didn't post something like this myself.

You even chose almost the same term for it. Mine is "hate bonding", as in "let's hate Team Bad together!", or "Two Minutes Hate" (...which has lasted eight years). It's infected a large enough fraction of my loved ones to be seriously depressing. I spend a lot of time listening to people I love ranting about how other people I love are stupid and terrible.

(Or did. I considered dis... (read more)

4Jonathan Moregård
This happened a while ago, and I've since migrated my social circles to distinctly non-partisan ones. I still want to help you, and would like to offer some ideas. Some of them might not fit your specific contexts. I trust you to pick the ones that seem promising. Ideas: * Say something akin to "I get depressed talking about those people. I've decided to focus on people I like instead. Have you been excited about anything recently?" * Bring up the negative consequences explicitly. In a highly polarized state, not engaging in the outrage might be interpreted as a sign of betrayal. Explicitly bringing it up might be weird, but it gives you a non-traitor reason for not engaging in outrage * Look into authentic relating - a bunch of practices for deepening communication & connection. Nonviolent communication & circling are included in this category, as well as general "authentic relating". You get some new tools for relating, and/or new friends. * Try to get people to reduce time spent on news & social media. Phone-free family gatherings? * Get people addicted to mobile games, so they spend their time on candy crush instead of culture wars * Become a hermit, build a log house under an oversized rock For reference, most of the people I hang out with are involved in the nordic branches of the wider burning man community. They are busy actually doing things, rather than complaining about politics. YMMV, but equivalent spaces where you're located might serve as a source of non-bitter connections.

Blink. Were there any significant downsides? And did the improvements persist, or diminish over time?

Does this really hold? I'd expect inflation to cost richer people more purchasing power on an absolute scale (because they have more cash to devalue), but less as a percentage of same (because that cash is a smaller proportion of their net worth).

2Brendan Long
You're right, and I hadn't thought of that. I think you'd still get the overall effect of a real transfer from richer to poorer people, but the way the tax falls on specific people would be different based on how much money they save and whether they save it in the form of dollars, plus whether they get paid in dollars.

+$BIGNUM for this. It's frustrating when interesting parts of the LW-sphere conversation happen on closed services. Some of us (e.g. and sometimes-feels-like-i.e. me) neither have nor want a twitter account, and twitter has made it increasingly difficult to follow references to it without one.

I have the same complaint about facebook, though it's not the culprit this time. Every so often I'll run into a post that depends on a reference that is facebook-account-walled.

2CronoDAS
I gave in and made an account on the X-parrot but I only use it to read things I'm linked to in other sources. (I have been pseudo-ideologically opposed to participating on that service since it first started.)

Yeah, the source post for the plate metaphor is one of the more enlightening things I've gotten out of the rationalsphere outside of ACX or the Sequences.

I didn't get much out of the supply cabinets myself because I travel heavy, but I loved that they existed. The universal whiteboards I wish I could mimic, but most of my wallspace is spoken for. The high-quality display mounts are definitely something I want to copy if I can get away with it (does anyone know the model?), though I think my apartment complex might complain about me bolting equipment to the... (read more)

Set up a small monthly donation. Doubt it will help much on its own, but maybe enough others think like me that the sum will.

Thanks, fixed. I could swear I looked that up, I have no idea how I still got it wrong.

Both my request and her response were more humorous than serious, though the writeup doesn't fully capture it (and I just edited it to clarify). I don't actually expect a prize. Though I'm thinking of taking my medallion back out to keep, if it's still there. :-P

Thanks. I thought of two more questions after posting:

  1. Any laundry facilities? (i.e. if I stay a week, will I need clothes for a week?)
  2. Any refunds if I book a bed/ticket and can't make it? (I'll understand if not, of course; but I have another, much busier event (Momocon) the weekend before, so there's an elevated chance I'll catch con plague at the least convenient possible time)
  3. [edit]: Possible bug report: I notice one of the shared-dorm rooms has different (higher) pricing than all the others, despite identical descriptions.
3Ben Pace
Welcome! 1. Yes. We have two or three (slightly hard to access) laundry machines on-site, and a laundrettes just down the street. I'm not sure what the default situation will end up being, but you'll be able to do laundry. 2. I'm pretty happy to give people refunds if something surprising happens and they come to the evet. I reserve the right to change my mind at any time if I think someone is abusing my trust somehow. 3. Thanks! Fixed the bug.

I see no general-inquiries address on less.online, so I hope it's okay if I post them here. Longtime rationalsphere lurker, much rarer poster, considering going. I'm based in Atlanta and pricing the trip:

  1. It's not clear from the page what the 'summer camp' part of the schedule is. To me that phrase connotes 'for kids', but I'm not sure, so I'm not sure if it's worth it to me to stay extra days. [EDIT: Never mind, I see this was answered below.]
  2. What's the nearest major airport, and is Lighthaven accessible from there by train and/or uber? (i.e. will I nee
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5Ben Pace
Thanks for the questions, and I hope you make it! Here's are my answers, happy to answer more/follow-ups. 1. Summer Camp is our name for the chill period between the two festival weekends. We've already sold ~100 tickets just for Summer Camp, so it's gonna be active. 2. SFO and OAK. You can get the Bart from SFO and then walk the last 20 mins. Google maps says that there's also public transport from Oakland (which to be clear is a fair bit closer than SFO). I haven't gone that route before, I think it might involve buses. 3. There's a few places people will be sleeping. They both have two showers that are right nearby and then there are lots more communally accessible ones dotted around campus (taking like 30-60 seconds to walk there). We'll stick a map up.  1. My guess is in one location it'll be 8 people for the 2 showers, and in the other location it could get to be many more people, and extra folks will need to do a little walking. 4. About 4 are one block away in our Ellsworth house. The rest are on site (mostly building E). 5. We had a 250-person event here last year, WiFi was generally fine. A few parts of campus are spotty (typically the outer edges). (We care a lot about WiFi issues and our team is down to help debug them.)

Ah, that put me on the right track. I've been asking google the wrong questions; I was looking for a downloadable program that I could run, but it looks like some (all?) of the interesting things in this space are server-side-only. Which I guess makes sense; presumably gargantuan hardware is required.

2MikkW
In the case of OpenAI, the server-side-only constraint, IIRC, is intentional, to prevent people from modifying the model, for AI safety reasons. My understanding is that usually running a model isn't as compute-intensive as training it in the first place, so I'd expect a user-side application to be viable; just not in line with OpenAI's modus operandi.
2ChristianKl
I asked a while ago https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/HnD8pqLKGn2bCbXJr/what-s-the-easiest-way-to-currently-generate-images-with There are a few Google Colab notebooks that you can run online but where you could also run the code offline if you desire.

The Bill Watterson one requires me to request black bears attacking a black forest campground at midnight.

Optionally: "...as pixel art".

I have to ask, how does one get hold of any of the programs in this vein? I've seen Gwern's TWDNE, and now your experiments with DALL-E, and I'd love to mess with them myself but have no idea where to go. A bit of googling suggests one can buy GPT3 time from OpenAI, but I gather that's for text generation, which I can do just fine already.

2Swimmer963 (Miranda Dixon-Luinenburg)
OpenAI has a waitlist you can sign up for to get early access to DALL-E. 

The main thing I've gotten out of microcovid is reduced search costs. Having ballpark figures for the relative effects of situations and interventions, gathered in one place, by a source I consider reasonably trustworthy, makes it much cheaper to estimate which risks are worth taking and which interventions are worth bothering with.

"Trustworthy" in this context means "someone systematically looking for the correct numbers, as opposed to targeting a bottom line chosen for reasons other than correctness." As with most politicized information, the problem isn... (read more)

Answer by Error70

Many people seem to find a formal diagnosis helpful for understanding themselves

Anecdote: I was in this camp, for sufficiently low values of "formal." I went to a psychologist to get checked out for autism (among other things) five or ten years ago. After testing, he said that he wouldn't personally diagnose me, but that I was close enough to the line that if I shopped around I could probably find someone who would. I said that was fine -- it told me what I wanted to know.

(hilariously, I also scored rather high on schizophrenia. His reaction went someth... (read more)

1Dumbledore's Army
Thank you for a good comment. I'm thinking about Viliam's suggestion of an unofficial or unrecorded diagnosis, it seems like you accomplished that unintentionally, which may be the best outcome! Also, I hadn't considered the risk of being misdiagnosed with something different and highly-stigmatised like schizophrenia!

The only concierge service I know about, which I somehow got access to, is completely useless to me because it assumes I’m super rich, and I’m not, and also the people who work there can’t follow basic directions or handle anything at all non-standard.

This is my experience, too, with almost any form of assistance. Actual thinking about the task is absent.

It's annoying, because an obnoxiously large proportion of life goes towards 1. doing all the fiddly stupid bits, 2. procrastinating about doing all the fiddly stupid bits, and 3. worrying about procrast... (read more)

9Dagon
Much of the difficulty in outsourcing is a simple result of principal-agent problems.  Almost nobody can pay enough to get someone as competent as they to think about their problems as deeply as they.  Only tasks with a pretty significant repeatability and efficiency premium (that is, actually takes less time when done by someone else, without loss in quality) can trivially be offloaded.   Everything else takes a fair bit of analysis and meta-planning in order to get someone else to do tolerably. This changes for the VERY rich - if being your PA/Butler pays well enough to be done by a smart, motivated person, you can shed a lot of things.  From what I can tell, it's not a smooth transition, though - normal people have to do most of their crap chores themselves, medium-rich people can outsource the trivial ones (gardening, grocery shopping, some parts of cleaning) and not the difficult ones (travel planning, making the grocery list to shop from, organizing things), and only the super-rich can really just forget the things they don't care about.

Thanks, and you're welcome.

Hrm. So testing organisms takes a while. Oh well. I might try to parallelize it, but I don't actually know hy, I'm just blindly translating python idioms, and concurrency is hard.

I notice that the hy version in the ubuntu repos will not run the program, apparently due to an upstream bug. The version from pip will. I mention this in case anyone else runs into the same hiccup.

1hath
I might try to parallelize it to some degree. It seems like the biomes might be able to be run separately, and the pairings might as well. No promises, though.

I want to test my organisms before submitting them and noticed there wasn't a way to tell the program to use my species files instead of the one in the repo. Also, the shabang line breaks on systems that aren't yours.

I sent you an MR covering both, but I don't know if you're watching them so I figured I'd mention it here.

Is it normal for it to take a couple seconds per generation to run?

4lsusr
You're right. I'm not watching the merge requests. Code merged. Thanks for the improvements. Yes,

"Buying expertise" seems like a good candidate. A friend might prefer to pay me to fix their computer, instead of taking it to a shop, because they know I won't tell them they need an expensive frobnitz unless they actually do. My cheerful price might be higher than the shop's, but it could easily be worth it. A similar situation probably applies to car mechanics.

Not at all a serious suggestion, but it popped into my head: You could solve this problem by making other forms of money laundering more convenient than real estate.

(or making real estate laundering less convenient/riskier, but that's not as funny a thought)

The use of real estate as a store of value/unit of exchange makes me think of an old Diablo II issue. Officially, the medium of exchange in D2 was gold. In practice, it was a relatively rare item called the Stone of Jordan.

How did this happen? For a time, a serious bug allowed players to dupe items easi... (read more)

"Mental constipation" is an awesome phrase for a phenomenon I really hate having.

suffer enough of it and you’ll become a connoisseur of it, able to enjoy it, but having also fallen into an attractor that keeps you from enjoying the greater joy of what simply is

A pattern of bullshit becomes a stable orbit in the space of lies.

It doesn't sound like this would require much in the way of coordination. That makes me a bit more hopeful about it than most options. Less room for a tragedy of the commons. Once demonstrated safe and effective, individuals and businesses could deploy UV lighting and derive benefit from it, without worrying about whether their investment will be wasted by the inaction of others.

2Roko
Yes, it is something that one nation could develop and then others could pick it up once it was shown to work.

How did you implement the button? I run a small site, love the idea, and would like to do something similar.

Datum: I have a Pixel 3 (known for a relatively small battery) and the only time battery becomes an issue is when I forget to put it on the charger overnight.

But I don't watch video (too small a screen), play games (ditto), send email (fuck phone keyboards), or do much of anything but SMS, rare phone calls, and internet lookups when I'm away from a keyboard. I think a lot of worrywarting over phone battery capacity stems from trying to use them for things that are better done on a real computer.

That said, I got an external battery after reading this post.

... (read more)

To change something, you must first describe it. To describe something, you must first see it. Hold still in one place for as long as it takes to see something

-- Diane Duane

Also, meta decisions take time to bring fruit at the object level, so when you make plans, you should spend the following days executing the plans instead of adjusting them; otherwise you decide without feedback.

Execution is Actual Work, though! Noooooooooooooooo!

(I'm adding that to my fortune file. I could use the reminder from time to time.)

I wonder what distinguishes sphexishness from a simple habit. They're both unreflective, automatic, default behaviors, and "bad habits" are just habits that fail to achieve goals. But they feel different to me. The best I can come up with is something like: habits are in theory changeable, whereas an actual sphex wasp will never change its behavior based on experience. Habits are acting sphexish.

But we need habits. I'm reminded of this:

Civilization advances by extending the number of important operations which we can perform without thinking about them.

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3Dagon
Thank you for bringing this up - it's a comparison that doesn't resonate with me. I suspect that "sphexishness" is a different modeling layer than "agency", so a direct comparison is confusing. More importantly, it's assumed without explanation that one is bad and one is good. For some reason, nobody's talking about the amazing success of the Sphex wasps, and looking for ways to ensure successful behavior without everyone having to model reality individually. And we don't talk (much) about the horror of bad choices, and how all suffering is caused by agency.
4Viliam
Perhaps there is an optimal balance between habits and deliberation. Too much on the side of habits, and you just keep doing the same behavior over and over again. Not necessarily a bad thing; sometimes you get lucky and the strategy you started with is actually a good one, and can bring you success in life. But you need the luck. Too much on the side of deliberation, and your clever ideas get undermined by lack of "automated operations" that would keep you moving forward. The result is procrastination; well known among the readers of this website. And the optimal balance probably depends on your current situation in life. After you achieve some success, you have more choices, and now deliberation probably becomes more useful. But again, there is such thing as too much meta-deliberation; obsessing "exactly how much time should I spend thinking and how much time should I spend working" generates neither useful work nor useful directions for work. I guess, the more meta, the less time you should give it, unless you already have evidence that the previous level of meta was useful to you. (When you notice that spending some time thinking increases the productivity of the time when you are working, that is the right moment to think about how much time do you actually want to spend planning.) Also, meta decisions take time to bring fruit at the object level, so when you make plans, you should spend the following days executing the plans instead of adjusting them; otherwise you decide without feedback.

Suggestion: Attach or link these, rather than putting them inline in a comment. I like that they're available, but I had to scroll down many screens to find the actual comments.

I observe that the idea of incorrectly believing I'm bad at something doesn't disturb me much, while the idea of incorrectly believing I'm good at something is mortifying.

I smell some kind of social signaling here.

I believe Yudkowsky discussed this some in his writings against Modesty, in Inadequate Equilibria. [recommendation due to relevance]

Written as "Human-Aligned Summer School", I first read it as an educational experiment aimed at not making kids suffer. For some reason I find the misinterpretation hilarious.

3Michaël Trazzi
Added "AI" to prevent death from laughter.

This seems related to something I've been thinking about recently: That the concept of "belief" would benefit from an analysis along the lines of How an Algorithm Feels from the Inside. What we describe as our "beliefs" are sometimes a map of the world (in the beliefs-paying-rent sense), and sometimes a signal to our social group that we share their map of the world, and sometimes a declaration of values, and probably sometimes other (often contradictory) things as well. But we act as if there's a single mental concept underlying them. ... (read more)

I don't use Facebook, but I should try something similar with my RSS feeds.

I find it interesting that facebook responds to commenting by showing you more of the same. IIRC, posts that aggravate people are also the most likely to inspire them to comment. That suggests Facebook is effectively rigged to piss you off.

Does that match people's experience? It matches my priors, but they're weak priors, since I won't touch the service with a ten foot pole.

6clone of saturn
Facebook is rigged to keep you checking Facebook as often as possible, regardless of the emotions that may give you.
4namespace
I actually organize my RSS feed by signal:noise ratio. So I do basically this process with each feed, or perhaps just rough-estimate it from the first 10 items or so. Once I have the rough signal:noise I put it in the appropriate folder. I found that this pretty much corrected the "giant wall of crap" problem immediately, so that it was easy to find the things which were important and leave the high volume slim pickings feeds for last. (Or better yet, in many cases not at all.)
2Elo
Facebook is agnostic towards content. So yes. Sometimes it can be an outrage machine, sometimes it can be a happy-joy machine. I suspect the extra Emojis help to classify and filter posts too. If you angry emoji something you can react in a way that maybe it will show you less of that. But I am unsure if that's actually what happens.

An RSS feed would be nice. Aside from that, I like it. Curation of content is a lengthy and undervalued service.

1Alexey Lapitsky
Thank you! RSS feed is definitely coming in the future.

Voting to deactivate MD parsing inside the WYSIWYG editor, provided a MD-only editor still exists. A tool should do one thing well.

I'll copy my comment from the other thread in here, though, since it's relevant: Don't hide the alternate editor in the user profile. Make it selectable when commenting, and remember the selection. Quite aside from making it immediately obvious that there's more than one way to post, it means you can measure users' preferences by seeing what they use to post with, with much less selection bias (owing to much less inconvenience for the non-default option).

I was disappointed by the new site, but still voted to migrate. The conversation is here, and content is king. Despite my bitching, your team deserves a great deal of credit just for breathing life back into the community.

That being said:

Performance was a big complaint, and kept me off lesserwrong until greaterwrong showed up, but you already know about that and for all I know it may have been fixed. My complaints are less with lesserwrong itself than with modern web design in general, and are mainly variants on "use of javascript as a first resort in... (read more)

1hruvulum
That definitely gets my vote for my biggest irritant on this site. The first thing I did after creating an account is to look in preferences for a way to prevent the bar from ever appearing. I suppose I am in the habit of being able to use the up-arrow key to scroll the window up a little bit, reliably, so that once I've hit the up arrow key and the page changes in any way (and my browser is the app that has focus) I can assume the scroll happened after the briefest glance at the page, and I can immediately turn my attention to something else. When I need to interact with the elements that now live on the bar, I would be prepared to scroll to the top of the page or (if I don't want to lose my place on the page) to visit LW2 in a new tab. I'm also prepared to install a Chrome extension if that is the easiest way for someone to implement what I'm asking for. Happy to answer questions sent to hruvulum@gmail.com.
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