Not saying AI models can't be moral patients, but 1) if the smartest models are probably going to be the most dangerous, and 2) if the smartest models are probably going to be the best at demonstrating moral patienthood, then 3) caring too much about model welfare is probably dangerous.

You only set aside occasional low-value fragments for national parks, mostly for your own pleasure and convenience, when it didn't cost too much?

Earth as a proportion of the solar system's planetary mass is probably comparable to national parks as a proportion of the Earth's land, if not lower.

Maybe I've misunderstood your point, but if it's that humanity's willingness to preserve a fraction of Earth for national parks is a reason for hopefulness that ASI may be willing to preserve an even smaller fraction of the solar system (namely, Earth) for humanity, I think this is addressed here:

it seems like for Our research purposes simulations would be just as good. In fact, far better, because We can optimize the hell out of them, running it on the equivalent of a few square kilometers of solar diameter

"research purposes" involving simulations can be a stand-in for any preference-oriented activity. Unless ASI would have a preference for letting us, in particular, do what we want with some fraction of available resources, no fraction of available resources would be better left in our hands than put to good use.

Thanks for this answer! Interesting. It sounds like the process may be less systematized than how I imagined it to be.

Dwarkesh's interview with Sholto sounds well worth watching in full, but the segments you've highlighted and your analyses are very helpful on their own. Thanks for the time and thought you put into this comment!

I like this post, and I think I get why the focus is on generative models.

What's an example of a model organism training setup involving some other kind of model?

Here are some resources I use to keep track of technical research that might be alignment-relevant:

• Podcasts: Machine Learning Street Talk, The Robot Brains Podcast
• Substacks: Davis Summarizes Papers, AK's Substack

How I gain value: These resources help me notice where my understanding breaks down i.e. what I might want to study, and they get thought-provoking research on my radar.

I'm very glad to have read this post and "Reward is not the optimization target". I hope you continue to write "How not to think about [thing] posts", as they have me nailed. Strong upvote.

Thanks for pointing me to these tools!