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What. if I may ask, is the sense in it? 

Hudjefa10

Do you mean to say "nothing is bigger than X" is nonsensical? We regularly encounter such expressions e.g. "nothing is greater than God".

Hudjefa10

So you mean to say ... supposing there are no dogs and 3 cats and n(x) returns the numerical value of x that what 0 < 3 means is n(dogs) < n(cats) i.e. n({ }) < n({cat 1, cat 2, cat 3})? There must be some quality (in this case quantity :puzzled:) on the basis of which a comparison (here quantitative) can be made.  

Do you also mean that we can't compare nothing to something, like I was doing above? Gracias. Non liquet, but gracias. 

Just a thought, but what if our ancestors had used an infinitesimal (sensu amplissimo) wherever they had to deal with n(nothing) = 0. They could've surmounted their philosophical/intuitionistic objections to treating nothing a something. For example if they ran into the equation , they could've used s (representing a really, really, small number) and "solved" the equation thus: . It would've surely made more sense to them than , oui?

Hudjefa30

LW is huge and I've just joined (it's been less than a year). I didn't realize ... apologies. I will be mindful of what kinda questions I ask. Gracias

Hudjefa10

Si, it is absurd. I take that to mean some kind of error has been committed. On cursory examination, it seems I've made the blunder the Greeks were weary of: considering nothing to be something. Only something can be greater/less than something else. Yet in math we regularly encounter statements such as  or , etc. Aren't these instances of comparing something to nothing and deeming this a valid comparison? Am I not doing the same when I say nothing is greater than , which in math becomes 

Hudjefa-10

This is curious. The usual is atheism using psychology to discredit theism. Roles are being reversed here with trapped priors, the suggestion being some veritas are being obscured by kicking religion out of our system. I half-agree since I consider this demonstration non finito

As for philosophia perennis, I'd say it's a correlation is causation fallacy. It looks as though the evident convergence of religions on moral issues is not due to the mystical and unprovable elements therein but follows from common rational aspects present in most/all religions. To the extent this is true, religion may not claim moral territory. 

That said, revelatory moral knowledge is a fascinating subject.

Hudjefa10

Hopefully, not talking out of my hat, but the difference between the final states of a double pendulum can be typed:  

  1. Somewhere in the middle of the pendulum's journey through space and time. I've seen this visually and true there's divergence. This divergence is based on measurement of the pendulum's position in space at a given time. So with initial state , the pendulum at time  was at position  while beginning with initial state the pendulum at time  was at position .  The alleged divergence is the difference , oui? Take in absolute terms, , but logarithmically, 
  2. At the very end when the pendulum comes to rest. There's no divergence there, oui? 
Hudjefa-20

I have nothing against AI as a Jarvis/Friday-like assistant/advisor. A bad workman blames his tools (absit iniuria). Some us don't know how to use stuff properly. My reckoning suggests that I'm aware of only 5% of my smart phone's capabilities. Sometimes I get these random notifications full of interesting suggestions. 

Hudjefa10

I don't know the exact values Lorenz used in his weather simulation, but Wikipedia says "so a value like 0.506127 printed as 0.506". If this were atmospheric pressure, we're talking about a millionth decimal place precision. I don't know what exerts 0.000001 Pa of pressure or to what such a teeny pressure matters.

Hudjefa10

Most kind of you to reply. I couldn't catch all that; I'm mathematically semiliterate. I was just wondering if the key idea "small differences" (in initial states) manifests at the output end (the weather forecast) too. I mean it's quite possible (given what I know, not much) that (say) an atmospheric pressure difference  of 0.01 Pa in the output could mean the difference between rain and shine. Given what you wrote I'm wrong, oui? If I were correct then the chaos resides in the weather, not the output (where the differences are as negligible as in the inputs). 

I know that there's something called the Lyapunov exponent. Could we "diminish the chaos" if we use logarithms, like with the Richter scale for earthquakes? I was told that logarithms, though they rise rapidly in the beginning, ultimately end up plateauing: log 1 million - log 100 = 4 (only)??? log 100 inches rain and log 1 inch rain = 2 (only)?

I hope you'll forgive me if I'm talking out of my hat here. It's an interesting topic and I tried my best to read and understand what I read. 

Gracias, have an awesome day.

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