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I guess I'm off to write a book about a society of blind, deaf, mute perpetual motion machines with no need for food, drink, sleep or entertainment of any kind.

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This might take a while.

5gwern
Pfft, you're just not thinking laterally. How would they communicate? By touch, of course - think signing on someone's arm or their hand (an example: in anime characters will occasionally hold up their hand and sketch out a symbol when the spoken form is unclear). Now that communication is solved, you can proceed to write an interesting story about the complexities of a society of blind-deaf-mutes (probably set underground, since if you don't perceive light, why not?)...

Escapism | Noun

" The tendency to seek distraction and relief from unpleasant realities, esp. by seeking entertainment or engaging in fantasy "

1David James
Let's step back. This thread of the conversation is rooted in this claim: "Let's be honest: all fiction is a form of escapism.". Are we snared in the Disputing Definitions trap? To quote from that LW article: I propose that we recognize several lower-level testable claims, framed as questions. How many people read fiction to ... 1. entertain? 2. distract from an unpleasant reality? 3. understand the human condition (including society)? 4. think through alternative scenarios? Now I will connect the conversation to these four points: * Luke_A_Somers wrote "Why would I ever want to escape from my wonderful life to go THERE?" which relates to #2. * thomblake mentions the The Philosophy of Horror. Consider this quote from the publisher's summary: "... horror not only arouses the senses but also raises profound questions about fear, safety, justice, and suffering. ... horror's ability to thrill has made it an integral part of modern entertainment." which suggests #1 and #3. * JonInstall pulls out the dictionary in the hopes of "settling" the debate. He's talking about #1. * Speaking for myself, when reading e.g. the embedded story The Tale of the Omegas in Life 3.0, my biggest takeaway was #4. Does this sound about right?
0Luke_A_Somers
I don't quite see the relevance of this to what I said.

The tendency to seek distraction and relief from unpleasant realities, esp. by seeking entertainment or engaging in fantasy

Exactly.

Unless they can find the capacity to take joy in things that are merely real. To be just as excited by hang-gliding, as riding a dragon; to be as excited by making a light with electricity, as by making a light with magic... even if it takes a little study...

I can absolutely take joy in things that are merely real. I would be just as excited by hang-gliding as I would by riding a dragon, at least in part because they of... (read more)

Can I write this into a novel? I'd very much like to write this into a novel

1MugaSofer
I can certainly see "The Eye" turning into a good short story. Not sure how you could write a novel featuring all these ideas.
9gwern
Well, if you're able to write 1 coherent sentence in a row about the topic and then another coherent sentence, then by induction I think you should be able to write a novel involving it.