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lc20

Epstein was an amateur rapist, not a pro rapist. His cabal - the parts of it that are actually confirmed and not just speculated about baselessly - seems extremely limited in scope compared to the kinds of industrial conspiracies that people propose about child sex work. Most of epstein's victims only ever had sex with Epstein, and only one of them - Virginia Giuffre - ever appears to have publicly claimed being passed around to many of Epstein's friends.

What I am referring to are claims an underworld industry for exploiting children the primary purpose of which is making money. For example, in the Sound of Freedom, a large part of the plot hinges on the idea that there are professionals who literally bring kidnapped children from South America into the United States so that pedophiles here can have sex with them. I submit that this industry in particular does not exist, or at least would be a terrible way to make money on a risk-adjusted basis compared to drug dealing.

lc112

I think P(DOOM) is fairly likely (maybe 60%) and working on AI research or accelerating AI race dynamics independently is one of the worst things you can do. I do not endorse improving the capabilities of frontier models and think humanity would benefit if you worked on other things instead.

That said, I hope Anthropic retains a market lead, ceteris paribus. I think there's a lot of ambiguous parts of the standard AI risk thesis, and that there's a strong possibility we get reasonablish alignment with a few quick creative techniques at the finish like faithful CoT. If that happens I expect it might be because Anthropic researchers decided to pull back and use their leverage to coordinate a pause. I also do not see what Anthropic could do from a research front at this point that would make race dynamics even worse than they already are, besides split up the company. I also do not want to live in a world entirely controlled by Sam Altman, and think that could be worse than death.

lc40

So one of the themes of sequences is that deliberate self-deception or thought censorship - deciding to prevent yourself from "knowing" or learning things you would otherwise learn - is almost always irrational. Reality is what it is, regardless of your state of mind, and at the end of the day whatever action you're deciding to take - for example, not talking about dragons - you could also be doing if you knew the truth. So when you say:

But if I decided to look into it I might instead find myself convinced that dragons do exist. In addition to this being bad news about the world, I would be in an awkward position personally. If I wrote up what I found I would be in some highly unsavory company. Instead of being known as someone who writes about a range of things of varying levels of seriousness and applicability, I would quickly become primarily known as one of those dragon advocates. Given the taboos around dragon-belief, I could face strong professional and social consequences.

It's not a reason not to investigate. You could continue to avoid these consequences you speak of by not writing about Dragons regardless of the results of your investigation. One possibility is that what you're also avoiding, is guilt/discomfort that might come from knowing the truth and remaining silent. But through your decision not to investigate, the world is going to carry the burden of that silence either way.

Another theme of the sequences is that self-deception, deliberate agnosticism, and motivated reasoning are a source of surprising amounts of human suffering. Richard explains one way it goes horribly wrong here. Whatever subject you're talking about, I'm sure there a lot of other people in your position who have chosen not to look into it for the same reasons. But if all of those people had looked into it, and faced whatever conclusion that resulted squarely, you yourself might not be in the position of having to face a harmful taboo in the first place. So the form of information hiding you endorse in the post is self-perpetuating, and is part of what helps keep the taboo strong.

lc93

I think the entire point of rationalism is that you don't do things like this.

lc60

The greatest strategy for organizing vast conspiracies is usually failing to realize that what you're doing is illegal.

lc40

I plan to cross-post to LessWrong but to not read or reply to comments (with a few planned exceptions).

:( why not?

lc3514

Pretty much ~everybody on the internet I can find talking about the issue both mischaracterizes and exaggerates the extent of child sex work inside the United States, often to a patently absurd degree. Wikipedia alone reports that there are anywhere from "100,000-1,000,000" child prostitutes in the U.S. There are only ~75 million children in the U.S., so I guess Wikipedia thinks it's possible that more than 1% of people aged 0-17 are prostitutes. As in most cases, these numbers are sourced from "anti sex trafficking" organizations that, as far as I can tell, completely make them up.

Actual child sex workers - the kind that get arrested, because people don't like child prostitution - are mostly children who pass themselves off as adults in order to make money. Part of the confusion comes from the fact that the government classifies any instance of child prostitution as human trafficking, regardless of whether or not there's evidence the child was coerced. Thus, when the Department of Justice reports that federal law enforcement investigated "2,515 instances of suspected human trafficking" from 2008-2010, and that "forty percent involved prostitution of a child or child sexual exploitation", it means that it investigated ~1000 possible cases of child prostitution, not that it found 1000 child sex slaves.

People believe a lot of crazy things, but I am genuinely flabbergasted at how many people find it plausible that there's an entire underworld industry of kidnapping children and selling them to pedophiles in first world countries. I know why the anti sex trafficking orgs sell these stories - they're trying to attract donations, and who is going to call out an "anti sex trafficking" charity? But surely most people realize that it would be very hard for an organized child rape cabal to spread word about their offerings to customers without someone alerting police.

lc102

Sometimes people say "before we colonize Mars, we have to be able to colonize Antarctica first".

What are the actual obstacles to doing that? Is there any future tech somewhere down the tree that could fix its climate, etc.?

lc-20

LessWrong and "TPOT" is not the general public. They're not even smart versions of the general public. An end to leftist preference falsification and sacred cows, if it does come, will not bring whatever brand of IQ realism you are probably hoping for. It will not mainstream Charles Murray or Garrett Jones. Far more simple, memetic, and popular among both white and nonwhite right wingers in the absence of social pressures against it is groyper-style antisemitism. That is just one example; it could be something stupider and more invigorating.

I wish it weren't so. Alas.

lc38

I regret that both factions couldn't lose.

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