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The case against AI alignment
M. Świderski91

Let me clarify, is your conclusion then that basically we should support the genocide of the whole of humanity because the alternative would be way worse? Are you offering some other alternatives except of that? Maybe a better and less apocalyptic conclusion would be to advocate against building any type of AI that's more advanced than we have today like some people already do? Do you think there's any chance for that? Because I don't and from what you said it sounds like the only conclusion is that the only future for us is that we all die from the hands of Clippy.

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3andrew sauer
Yes. The only other alternative I could see is finding some way to avoid singleton until humanity eventually goes extinct naturally, but I don't think that's likely. Advocating against AI would be a reasonable response but I don't think it will work forever, technology marches on. Every species goes extinct, and some have already gone extinct by being victims of their own success. The singularity is something which theoretically has the potential to give humanity, and potentially other species, a fate far better or far worse than extinction. I believe that the far worse fate is far more likely given what I know about humanity and our track record with power. Therefore I am against the singularity "elevating" humanity or other species away from extinction, which means I must logically support extinction instead since it is the only alternative. Edit: People seem to disagree more strongly with this comment than anything else I said, even though it seems to follow logically. I'd like a discussion on this specific point and why people are taking issue with it.
The case against AI alignment
M. Świderski32

>... a very, very small percentage of them?

So you totally discard the results of the Stanford prison experiment or the Milgram experiment? It wasn't a small percentage of people who went to the maximal punishment available in the case of the Milgram experiment for example.

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5Said Achmiz
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