Matt Goldenberg

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No, people really do see it, that whispiness can be crisp and clear

I'm not the most visual person. But occasionally when I'm reading I'll start seeing the scene,l in teading then get jolted out of it t when I realize I don't know how I'm seeing the words as they've been replaced with the imagined visuals

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I used to think "getting lost in your eyes" was a metaphor, until I made eye contact with particularly beautiful woman in college and found myself losing track of where I was and what I was doing.

Tad James has a fascinating theory called timeline therapy. In it, he explores how different people represent their timelines and his theory about how shifting those representations will change fundamental ways you relate to the world.

fwiw i think that your first sentence makes sense, and second sentence doesn't understand why

i think people OBVIOUSLY have a sense of what meaning is, but it's really hard to describe

ah that makes sense

 in my mind this isn't resources flowing to elsewhere, it's either:

 

  1. An emotional learning update
  2. A part of you that hasn't been getting what it wants speaking up.

this is great, thanks for sharing

in my model that happens through local updates, rather than a global system

for instance, if i used my willpower to feel my social anxiety completely (instead of the usual strategy of suppression) while socializing, i might get some small or large reconsolidation updates to the social anxiety, such that that part thinks it's needed in less situations or not at all

alternatively, the part that has the strategy of going to socialize and feeling confident may gain some more internal evidence, so it wins the internal conflict slightly more (but the internal conflict is still there and causes a drain)

i think the sort of global evaluation you're talking about is pretty rare, though something like it can happen when someone e.g. reaches a deep state of love through meditation, and then is able to access lots of their unloved parts that are downstream TRYING to get to that love and suddenly a big shift happens to whole system simultaneously (another type of global reevaulation can take place through reconsolidating deep internal organizing principles like fundamental ontological constraints or attachment style)

also, this 'subconscious parts going on strike' theory makes slightly different predictions than the 'is it good for the whole system/live' theory

 

for instance, i predict that you can have 'dead parts' that e.g. give people social anxiety based on past trauma, even though it's no longer actually relevant to their current situation.

and that if you override this social anxiety using 'live willpower' for a while, you can get burnout, even though the willpower is in some sense 'correct' about what would be good for the overall flourishing of the system given the current reality.

A lot of people are looking at the implications of o1's training process as a future scaling paradigm, but it seems to me that this implementation of applying inference time compute to just in time fine tune the model for hard questions is equally promising and may have equally impressive results if it scales with compute, and has equal potential in terms of low hanging fruit to be picked to improve it.

Don't sleep on test time training as a potential future scaling paradigm.

I often talk about w/ clients burnout as your subconscious/parts 'going on strike' because you've ignored them for too long

I never made the analogy to Atlas Shrugged and the live money leaving the dead money because it wasn't actually tending to the needs of the system, but now you've got me thinking

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