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I bet Eliezer's readership could be doubled if someone rewrote his posts in a more positive tone. His style of "haha, look at how dumb everyone is" just doesn't sit well with a good number of people (and I've talked to a few of them), even if that's not quite what he is saying.

In the long run, ETH >> BTC. I'll even provide a few intuitions for why I think this:

  • Feature-wise ETH is strictly better.
  • Single founder >> committee. Especially since Vitalik is really smart.

Yeah, I think the notification system for comment threads could use some work.

1habryka
Yeah, the notification system is currently quite disfunctional. I should get around to fixing it soon.
If you would sometimes engage in a deep argument, it would be viable but I haven't seen a single post from you do try to deeply argue a case.

It might help to know that this is an account I created to be anonymous. When I have a "normal" post to write, I write it under my actual name.

Evernote works well for getting ideas stuck in your head on paper. I don't publish every random idea that I record in Evernote online and I see no reason why this community would encourage such behavior.

Something about getting social feedback feels a lot mor... (read more)

3Davide_Zagami
I second this.

Okay, will do it each month (if it gets some traction).

Can one just spit out random, speculative opinions?

Sure.

Can one come and just unironically state "I think Trump being president is evidence that the aliens are among us" as long as they sincerely suspect the correlation?

Yup. That's the idea.

7Raemon
FWIW, while I like the idea of this thread and think it's good to not proactively discourage ideas, I will say if it turned out that this was the majority of the sorts of ideas that were coming out I'd probably regard the experiment as a failure, or at least lose interest.

Sigh. I suppose I haven't. Can you steelman it for me? (At least in your own mind.) If you can't, then I suppose this post deserves all the downvotes it has.

4Gyrodiot
Not speaking for Christian here. Personally, I can't steelman suggestions that have never been defended. I see the point of steelmanning as trying in good faith to build the strongest version of an opposing view, and then criticizing it. However, to do that, I need material! I need the voice of a proponent, I need something stable and sound to argue against. I don't want to generate arguments for your idea, since I will probably misrepresenting it and build a strawman out of speculations, even if I work in good faith. This is why I need your voice!
MrRobot-30

But also useful in case we'll ever need to shutdown all computers. (Unlikely, I suppose. Again, open to better drill suggestions.)

Is it that it is a demonstration of humanity's ability to coordinate on a massive scale?

Yes!

Happy to hear proposals about fire drills with a feedback sooner than 1 year.

Either would be impressive. And I agree that Unstable would be even more impressive. (Didn't know the new set is the new Un-set.)

If that happened, how much close would you think AGI is?

Huh, now I'm really surprised by the number of downvotes. What gives?

7ChristianKl
You made a bad suggestion and didn't even bother to make the case for it. You can't conclude from the fact that action X shows that a person is sane, that measuring how many people do X in a society is a good measurement for how sane a society is.

Incorrectly tracts insanity for populations living before cryopreservation is discovered.

Relatedly, I think Paul Christiano wrote something similar to the SSC post, but I can't find it righ now.

Relatedly, basic advice for AI companies: never, ever hire anyone remote you haven't met in person.

7ChristianKl
If there's an AGI out there, it being hired by AI companies isn't an important worry.

Bitcoin blockchain == Clippy

I mean, just on priors, how likely is it that "Satoshi Nakomoto" can't be found precisely because they are not a real person (and are an AGI)? (Or a large organization / billionnaire, I suppose.)

MrRobot-30

When did "don't talk to strangers online, they might kidnap you" become "don't talk to strangers online, it might be the AGI"?

| I doubt it's the fastest way a super intelligent AI could make money though.

Uhm, Satoshi has 1 million bitcoins, which is $6.8B right now. He has made that over 9 years. How many other companies / people have done that? This is a ridiculous outlier. What kind of human wouldn't start using that money by now? May be a very wealthy billionaire, may be a large company, or may be AGI. But the probability it's one of the first two that doesn't care about a few extra billion dollars decreases every day.

2evand
Obvious kinds of humans include: Dead humans. (Who didn't manage to leave the coins to their heirs.) Cryonically preserved humans hoping to use them later. (Including an obvious specific candidate.) Humans optimistic enough about Bitcoin to think current prices are too low. (We know Nakamoto had resources, so it seems a safe bet that they could keep living on ordinary means for now.) And the obvious: you don't know that all of Nakamoto's coins fit the standard assumed profile. It's entirely possible they intentionally mined some with the regular setup and are spending a few from that pool.

Additional note on the person: my "friend"'s posts are mostly liked only by me. It's like he doesn't have any other friends who like his posts......

2Kazi Siddiqui
Your friend is not an AI, but FB's algorithm did bring you two together because it is optimized to have both of you spend as much time online as possible.

Satoshi Nakomoto == Deep Mind??

1MrRobot
I mean, just on priors, how likely is it that "Satoshi Nakomoto" can't be found precisely because they are not a real person (and are an AGI)? (Or a large organization / billionnaire, I suppose.)