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nroman20

I try to avoid using the word 'really' for this sort of reason. Gets you into all sorts of trouble.

(a) JBlack is using a definition related to simulation theory, and I don't know enough about this to speculate too much, but it seems to rely on a hard discontinuity between base and sensory reality.

(b) Before I realized he was using it that way, I thought the phrase meant 'reality as expressed on the most basic level yet conceivable' which, if it is possible to understand it, explodes the abstractions of higher orders and possibly results in their dissolving... (read more)

nroman10

It sounds like you're using very different expectations for those questions, as opposed to the very rigorous interrogation of base reality. 'Does Santa exist?' and 'does that chair exist?' are questions which (implicitly, at least) are part of a system of questions like 'what happens if I set trip mines in my chimney tonight?' and 'if I try to sit down, will I fall on my ass?' which have consequences in terms of sensory input and feedback. You can respond 'yes' to the former, if you're trying to preserve a child's belief in Santa (although I contend that's... (read more)

2Chantiel
I generally agree with the content of the articles you linked, and that there are different notions of "really exist". The issue is, I'm still not sure what "base-level reality" means. JBlack said it was what "really exists", but since JBlack seems to be using a notion of "what really exists" that's different from the one people normally use, I'm not really sure what it means. In the end, you can choose to define "what really exists" or "base-level reality" however you want, but I'm still wondering about what people normally take them to mean.
8Zack_M_Davis
The correctness of that post has been disputed; for an extended rebuttal, see "Where to Draw the Boundaries?" and "Unnatural Categories Are Optimized for Deception".
nroman10

I had my first jab of the vaccine early yesterday, and last night had an extremely vivid, mystic dream. I recount the exact details here, but suffice it to say that holographic psychopomps led me through the underworld in a search for the archangel Raziel. I have no idea what to make of this.

Do any of you have firsthand experience or close anecdotal experience of strange dreams after the vaccine? I don't find it very likely, but a relative who heard this and referred to some secondhand anecdotal accounts, so I want to check. 

Second, is there any value... (read more)

2Ann
My friend had a fever-type dream after the second jab, and his fever dreams are usually fairly creative. Unsure whether he had an actual fever at the time (being asleep and the side effects short duration), but fever dreams are a similar phenomenon and it seemed likely to have been a case of that.
nroman10

I hadn't considered that angle. Still, that heuristic assumes

a) that the field is one where those differences are salient (I maintain mathematics at least is exempt) and

b) that the people you're inviting have sufficient background to make meaningful contributions, contra the orthodox intersectional considerations you mentioned before.

I'm tempted say that this heuristic (diversity of identity) is strictly less effective than diversity of thought/ideology, but that seems to be what Scott runs against. It would indicate that there are insights not available j... (read more)

nroman50

Good points. Perhaps 'intersectionality' isn't the right term. I also considered 'positionality,' trying to refer to ' ideology that emphasizes identity over reasoning.' Or maybe I'm thinking of the 'motte' form, so that [whatever the Scott quote represents] is a weaker form of motte!intersectionality is a weaker form of bailey!intersectionality. 

Though I think the Scott quote represents something stronger than 'paying attention to identity X's perspective'. It looks more like 'identity X may provide information and insights in unpredictable ways.'

Thi... (read more)

4Viliam
Considering that anyone can provide an unpredictable insight, and you can't invite everyone to the debate, so you need to use some heuristic to get maximum insight per number of people invited... the social justice heuristic (focusing on gender, race, sexual orientation) is actually quite good. It can be further improved by also considering social class and religion/politics.
nroman50

I found a passage in James C Scott's Seeing Like a State that shifted me a little closer towards agreeing with intersectionality. 

I think that a "woman's eye," for lack of a better term, was essential to Jacobs's frame of reference. A good many men, to be sure, were insightful critics of high-modernist urban planning, and Jacobs refers to many of their writings. Nevertheless, it is difficult to imagine her argument being made in quite the same way by a man ... The eyes with which she sees the street are, by turns, those of shoppers running errands, mo

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Viliam100

To me, intersectionality feels like one of those "motte and bailey" things. Yes, seeing things from other people's perspective can be very useful, and yes, it is often better to invite an X to participate in the project than trying to guess how things might seem from X's perspective. This is definitely worth paying attention to!

But it also comes with the political baggage, the official list of "groups that matter" which suggests that it is useful to consider people's gender or sexual orientation, but not that useful to consider e.g. people's social class o... (read more)

1nim
I recently encountered a local policy that made me realize nobody with experiences similar to mine could possibly have been involved in the planning process. In my rural area, the policy went from no permit requirements around burn barrels or home fire pits, to asking everyone to fill out an online form before every use of fire outdoors. The web form required the address, the planned time of burning, a contact phone number, and the full name of the adult in charge. They didn't mention who would have access to the submitted data, how long it would be kept, whether users would be notified if a data breach leaked their addresses and phone numbers to attackers, what consequences would result from burning without having filled out the form, whether there was an alternative way to get a permit without the form, or what regulations gave them the authority to make the change of requiring it. As a highly online millennial, this made me ask some questions which seemed blindingly obvious: * What about people who lack internet access? How are they to find out about the new requirement, and how are they expected to file for permits when public libraries are shut due to a global pandemic? * What about the form being used to dox people? People in positions of power where they'd be expected to have access to the form's results aren't immune to harassing others, and if a victim is staying with a friend to avoid for instance domestic violence, requiring them to link their full name to their current address makes using the form dangerous to them. * What about the form being used to swat people? If some jerk on the internet finds my name and address, they could impersonate me in filing permits and likely have fire services or law enforcement sent to my house if they used the form to claim they planned to burn on a high fire danger day I have these reactions without personally having lacked internet, or being doxed, or being swatted, because I perceive those threats as "things whic
nroman20

Looking at the early section on motivational advice, I was reminded of Antifragile (my review, Scott's review). Motivational advice which assures success if one believes hard enough and encourages people to try for things despite long odds doesn't look like it helps those individuals. If this advice is widely spread and followed, who benefits? Possibly society as a whole. If individuals in general overestimate their chances of success, try, and largely fail, then there's a much larger pool to select from, and hopefully the best successes are better than th... (read more)

nroman10

Chapter 3: Why Truth Is More Valuable Than We Realize

Early in the chapter, Galef lays out examples of tradeoffs between Soldier and Scout mindset, most vivid for me in the anecdote of the charity president, who convinces himself that the budget is well spent, helping to gain donations but reducing actual effectiveness. 

Two questions which occurred to me reading this: First, is it possible to compartmentalize the Soldier and Scout mindsets to a significant degree, such that one can be used when soliciting donations and the other when deciding which pro... (read more)

nroman80

Cowen doesn't seem to have written his own thoughts on the matter, but has reported on it at the links below, and seems excited. Until recently the project has kept relatively quiet, as they were shopping around for big early investors. It's only recently they've opened themselves up to the public, and they're still focused mostly on attracting local Hondurans. I've known about the project for a few years,  but only because I'm close to people who got in on the early stages. If I had to guess, I figure they want to have more built and have a solid loc... (read more)

2mike_hawke
Thanks, this is really helpful! I'll ask more questions if I think of them.
nroman40

That's a lot of the appeal. Roatan was known as a scuba destination before this, and so long as Prospera keeps the waters clean, that should only increase. Medical tourism, as well as medical research, including pharma, is also a big selling point with the full reciprocity and choice of regulatory environment. 

One big point I feel should be pointed out is e-residency. Prospera intends to profit not just from activity on-site, but also from people and companies declaring e-residency in Prospera. If the attraction of its regulatory environment works out, it may well have tax revenue disproportionate to physical residents which it actually has to provide services for. 

Answer by nroman90

I think a large number of people would benefit from temporarily adopting a mystic/magical religion. Tantra comes to mind first owing to David Chapman's writing, but Wicca, alchemy, Kabbalah and ritual magic are included as well. 

These are systems utterly at odds with normal and socially acceptable modes of living. Ideally, these could serve as shocks to break people out of major ruts in thinking or belief, or as outlets for resolving emotional hangups and releasing socially unacceptable desires. I also know a good few people who, if nothing else, coul... (read more)

2nim
One of my own weird beliefs is very close to this one: Huge amounts of everything accepted by modern western medicine and psychology today was used by people in some way before being "scientifically" explained. Whether we're talking about using compounds from particular plants to treat particular ailments, or using particular psychological tricks to alter peoples' thoughts and behavior, science is literally eating magic's lunch because "magic" is often where science looks to get ideas for hypotheses to test. Because of this history, and the history of science being very confidently wrong about many things in the past, I don't find it problematic to use personally pieces of "magic" or "superstition" as lifestyle or cognitive building blocks when they suit a particular purpose better than the available scientific ones. Then again, I think that what "most people" need to learn from a foray into the occult is the ability to build their own systems to meet their needs, rather than just raw weirdness.