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quiet00

Has this study been corroborated? 13 years should be enough time for a modest amount of supporting evidence to become known.

gwern180

If you plug 'Brain aging and midlife tofu consumption' into Google Scholar, one of the little links under the first hit points to 'Cited by 176'; if you click on that, you can hit a checkbox for 'Search within citing articles'; then you can search a query like "experiment OR randomized OR blind" which yields 121 results.

The first result shows no negative effect and a trend to a benefit, the second is inaccessible, the second & third are reviews whose abstract suggests it would argue for benefits, and the fourth discusses sleep & mood bene... (read more)

quiet00

Haha, a bit of a drive yea.

quiet00

Synthesizers and guitars, mostly.

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quiet20

Death Grips - Hip hop/punk/noise

Bizarre, aggressive, and ridiculously creative music. I'm fascinated by musicians that manage to be simultaneously reckless and focused, though I should expect nothing less from any project that includes the drummer from Hella.

Songs: Hunger Games, Takyon Full Albums: Exmilitary, The Money Store, No Love Deep Web

Lola y Manuel - Flamenco

A husband and wife songwriting duo from mid-70's Spain. Arab-influenced singing, technically spectacular guitar, and quite progressive compositions that expand, rather than abandon the traditio... (read more)

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quiet10

Great idea, I'm going to join you. Nothing of value will be lost.

March 26th: Reddit crashes as we open infinitely many new tabs in a fit of Burroughs-tier depravity.

quiet50

Went cold turkey on caffeine a couple weeks ago after sustaining a 3-6 cup daily intake for months. Been feeling unmotivated, taking the occasional mid-day nap, and having unpleasant thoughts along the lines of 'where's my god damn coffee' when urges went unfulfilled. The first 3 days were lazy, headache-clouded, and unproductive.

After that, though, I started to notice that I felt like working on projects in the afternoon and evening. It's a minor change in mood that's led to a major change in behavior, at least in the short term. Worth the costs, even if only for a brief change of pace.

quiet60

I'm working on an algorithmic music system. The (likely unachievable) goal is to make a generative clone of my own creative process. It's a kind of catharsis, bringing every unspeakable intuition bubbling up to the surface to be translated into a hierarchy of computational processes. Lots of trial and error, red herrings, and accidental success. My short-term goal is to be able to co-perform with it live in an entirely improvised manner, maybe by the end of 2013.

The current focus is 'groove', and it's been a nightmare trying to find a common thread between... (read more)

quiet170

As an American male who went to work the day after breaking his collar bone, I can testify that without a doubt, my rugged outward appearance would get thrown aside if proper health care and sick time were available to me. Scamming an x-ray by using a fake name at the hospital and carefully rationing what little methadone I could buy from local junkies, while Cowboy As Hell, is a pretty awful way to get by. I'd much rather be at home in bed mending then lifting boxes of apples with one arm and ensuring that my bones set at an odd angle.

I think that if European style health care was available here that we'd adapt pretty quickly, rugged independence be damned.

2OrphanWilde
There's a difference between rugged independence and obstinate idiocy - not that you were idiotic, as it sounds like you had no choice, but you're treating "Aggravating injuries" as being equivalent to "Ignoring inconvenient issues."
quiet80

Different audience, different language. I'm just impressed that a NY Op-Ed actually contained these sentences:

My case for these conclusions relies on three main observations. The first is that our own intelligence is an evolved biological solution to a kind of optimization problem, operating under very tight constraints of time, energy, raw materials, historical starting point and no doubt many other factors. [...] Second, this biological endowment, such as it is, has been essentially constant, for many thousands of years. It is a kind of fixed point in

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2[anonymous]
Fair, I liked the article, too. I was responding to the last paragraph of the OP, not the first.
quiet30

Not in the slightest. DH does a good job of providing you with the things that he later asks you to use.

quiet00

When in doubt, frame all drug talk as harm reduction.

quiet90

You have a point! Updated for correctness and humor.

2wedrifid
(Have two more karma points on the grandparent. I respect updates!)
quiet50

And given that rituals, whether religious or civic, are pretty much standard and often spontaneous in most communities, I don't see how having a ritual for some subgroup would harm the High Ideals of Rationality.

Rationality Itself remains unphased by a backyard party blog meetup, that's for sure.

I think Academian's post on the role of narrative in self-image touches on the seemingly disjointed purpose of a Rationalist Ritual. We all have our unique approaches to rational thought - my own experience consists largely of the dissolving of narratives in se... (read more)

quiet110

I have never received evidence that I am less likely to be overconfident about things than people in general or that any other particular person on this site is.

You've never caught yourself in the act of falling for a cognitive bias detailed on this site?

My judgment of this site as of now is that way too much time is spent discussing subjects of such low expected value (usually because of absurdly low expected probability of occurring) for using this site to be worthwhile. In fact I hypothesize that this discussion actually causes overconfidence relat

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wedrifid200

RE: Cryonics - that particular Kool-Aid doesn't come in my flavor yet

"Kool-Aid" is now a term that can be used to mean not committing suicide?

quiet120

I've lurked on LW for a long time and can shrug off the second-hand embarrassment without fail, but I'll be damned if I ever link anyone I know to this web site. This undercurrent of LW does more damage than anything Roko ever posted.

I'm no stranger to ritual/awe/group bonding (Merzbow & MDMA: the reason for the season), but there is some hazy aesthetic line past which I cannot follow. Nor will I risk being associated with. Sorry.

If you enjoy this stuff, than more power to ya. Have a blast. Just keep in mind how many people are seriously turned off from LW because of it.

[in agreement with, rather than directed at, drethelin]

5Academian
Thanks for sharing this, Quiet; I'm sad to say I agree with you. I think rationality as a movement can't afford to be associated with ritual. It's just too hard to believe that it's not a failure mode. I personally find Raemon's perspective inspiring and convincing. Raemon, it seems to me that you have a very sane perspective on the role of ritual in people's lives. And I'm all about trying to acknowledge and work with our own emotional needs, e.g. in this post. But I personally think openly associating with Ritual with a Capital R is just too sketchy looking for the community. It saddens me to have to worry about such alarm bells going off, but I think it's the reality. Of course there are other easier-to-worry-about negative effects of ritual than simply appearances; what I'm saying is that, Raemon, even if you are able to avoid those failure modes --- and I have to say, to me, you seem very trustworthy in this regard --- I think strong ritual associations are worth avoiding for signaling alone.
9Kawoomba
I - sadly but determinately - second that motion. A "Ritual Report" in Main ... because our community does not have enough novel ideas that are hard to swallow as is.
quiet00

I'm on a computer all day at work and the bulk of my activities at home are computer-based as well. I've been able to get into a nice habit of taking daily walks, usually right when I get home from work (before even going in the door). It's quite enjoyable and sometimes I end up wandering around for miles/hours before some other motivation urges me home. Just being in a place where things can be >100 feet away feels novel most of the time. Computer usage is bizarrely user-centric, compared with the outside world; a contrast that shouldn't feel as profou... (read more)

quiet70

We should exempt any imagery fitting of a Slayer album cover, lest we upset the gods of metal with our weakness.

quiet110

I appreciate the honesty of it. No one here is going to enact any of these thought experiments in real life. The likely worst outcome is to off-put potential SI donors. It must be hard enough to secure funding for a fanfic-writing apocalypse cult; prepending violent onto that description isn't going to loosen up many wallets.

quiet30

Not all fanfics are created equally, eh?

quiet00

Curiously, none of this prevents people from seriously talking about interactive animatronic puppets as if they had emotions.

For now!

It will be interesting to see the cultural confusion when 'simulations' are as complex and deep as the real deal. I wonder if robots will look at me with (simulated?) disgust when I joke about circuit bending my friend's little sister's furby? Will I simulate shame?

quiet30

...Which is to say that whenever there is (a physical arrangement with) a logical structure that matches (is transitive with) the logical structure of consciousness - then there would be consciousness. It gets more complicated. If you draw a line with a pencil on a piece of paper, so that it encodes a three dimensional trajectory over time of a sentient being's consciousness - you basically have created a "soulful" being. Except there's just a drawn line on a piece of paper.

(Assuming you can store a sufficient amount of bits in such an encoding

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quiet60

Hmm, when jokes about medically experimenting on cancer patients with bleach don't register as being all that dark (until someone takes it seriously), then I think it might be time to reevaluate my sense of humor.

1Shmi
Pun intended?
quiet10

As discussed elsewhere in this thread this is not the same as saying they all are 100% fallible.

No disagreement here. Where we seem to disagree is whether or not the 22% remaining unknowns qualify as positive evidence towards anything.

Where did you get these statements from? Thin air? Any references on it? You obviously hasn't looked into this.

I assumed that if there was physical evidence then you would have used it to bolster your argument. Is there any?

I read the wiki article you linked to. I came out believing that the study concluded that 22% of... (read more)

quiet80

Seriously, is this the level of discussion: "the study discarded some eye witness reports, so I am fully justified in discarding the rest as well" ?

The trend is for these mysteries to have boring solutions. Eyewitness testimony is known to be unreliable. There is no physical evidence. All that is left is a very small amount of people who claim to have seen something that they don't understand; color me unimpressed.

But it leaves a massive phenomena to be explained, which should spark massive scientific investigation.

I would imagine that th... (read more)

-2[anonymous]
"The trend is for these mysteries to have boring solutions. Eyewitness testimony is known to be unreliable." As discussed elsewhere in this thread this is not the same as saying they all are 100% fallible. By far, as stated in the Project Blue Book Special Report No. 14. "There is no physical evidence. All that is left is a very small amount of people who claim to have seen something that they don't understand;" Where did you get these statements from? Thin air? Any references on it? You obviously hasn't looked into this. "Have little grey men actually emerged from objects? Or is that just what people have claimed? There is a significant difference between those two statements and your choice of phrasing indicates an unjustified bias." As said in the original post my belief is utterly uninteresting - I could be lunatic. What matters is the arguments and references I can come up with.
quiet30

Also by the way: how can you so easily dismiss thousands of eyewitness reports as evidence? The studies does not align with that conclusion:

The study itself dismissed thousands of eyewitness reports.

About 69% of the cases were judged known or identified (38% were considered conclusively identified while 31% were still "doubtfully" explained); about 9% fell into insufficient information. About 22% were deemed "unknown", down from the earlier 28% value of the Air Force studies.

In the known category, 86% of the knowns were aircraft, b

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0[anonymous]
Seriously, is this the level of discussion: "the study discarded some eye witness reports, so I am fully justified in discarding the rest as well" ? "Assuming these people actually saw something, how can we make the leap to aliens? " As discussed elsewhere you are completely right. In the cases where we just see something on the sky that cannot be explained by anything we know, we cannot just jump to the aliens conclusion. But it leaves a massive phenomena to be explained, which should spark massive scientific investigation. Also this resolution doesn't account for the cases where little grey men actually emerge from these objects. They may not be from another planet, but alternative hypothesis's aren't really a dime a dozen here.
quiet10

but your first question seems unrelated - as if it exists only to be snarky.

Oh, that is unintended. Apologies. The last couple times I've encountered that word used it was a placeholder for "vague feelings of dis/approval", though I should probably give LW more credit. I still have doubts about the usefulness of 'legitimacy' as a metric.

Do you disagree that voting reinforces the sense of the populace that the democratically elected government has a "right to rule"?

No, I agree with that. Though, if the 'sense of the populace' was ... (read more)

quiet20

What do you mean by 'legitimacy'?

How does activist non-participation accomplish anything when it looks no different from apathy to an outsider? Any medium you might use to spread your message can be used regardless of if you vote or not. You might as well vote for a lesser evil while claiming non-participation, unless you think a possible greater evil will be somehow more likely to dissolve its own power.

0A1987dM
Indeed. From me to not show up in the polling place is as strong evidence that I don't endorse democracy as is evidence that I can't be bothered to because I don't care either way/I'm a selfish CDTist and think my vote is too unlikely to change anything/I'd rather go shopping or something. The way to show that you don't endorse democracy is to go to the polling place and spoil the ballot.
7TimS
Many political theories express the concept that the perceived "right to rule" of a government effects its efficiency and likelihood of continuing. Do you disagree that voting reinforces the sense of the populace that the democratically elected government has a "right to rule"? ---------------------------------------- I mostly agree with your second point, but your first question seems unrelated - as if it exists only to be snarky.
0drethelin
The same way any marginal change accomplishes things. There are hundreds of vegan/vegetarian food options out there now because each of those people is willing to spend money to purchase them, even though each person is a tiny marginal difference. You don't need to march in the streets or donate money to soy hotdog research to help accomplish change. The fewer people vote the more and more obvious the problems with voting become.