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Ratburn10

If you can strike in a way that prevents retaliation that would, by definition, not be mutually assured destruction. Your understanding is also wrong, at least for most of the cold war. Nuclear submarines make it impossible to strike so hard they can't fire back, and they have been around since 1960. People in the cold war were very much afraid of living in a potential target area, but life went on.

2AnthonyC
Correct, which is in part why so much effort went into developing credible second strike capabilities, building up all parts of the nuclear triad, and closing the supposed missile gap. Because both the US and USSR had sufficiently credible second strike capabilities, it made a first strike much less strategically attractive and reduced the likelihood of one occurring. I'm not sure how your comment disagrees with mine? I see them as two sides of the same coin.
Ratburn10

There's are real concerns, but I feel like we are only formalizing the status quo.

Throughout the Cold War, it would have been fairly easy to kill the other sides leader, especially if you are willing to use a nuke. I still thank that is true. The president's travel schedule is public, and its not like he's always within 15 minutes of a nuclear bunker. The reason countries don't assassinate each other's heads of state is not because they are unable to.

If you live in Manhattan or Washington DC today, you basically can assume you will be nuked first, yet people live their lives. Granted people could behave differently under this scenario for non-logical reasons.

2AnthonyC
My understanding is that in the Cold War, a basic MAD assumption was that if anyone were going to launch a first strike, they'd try to do so with overwhelming force sufficient to prevent a second strike, hitting everything at once.
Ratburn10

Given you could use a conventional, small explosive, that makes it easier, but my guess is it still does not work. There are at least two big issues:

  • How do you make sure he always wears it? Do you have a foreign agent constantly at his side?
  • How do you trigger it? What would you do about a signal blocking room?
1Knight Lee
Maybe it's a ring that explodes if cut? I'm not saying I can prove it'll work, just that there might be some way or another to target the leaders rather than random civilians in a city (which the leaders might not care about).
Ratburn10

I thought about something like this (A nuke near the White House) but quickly realized the bomb would have to travel with them. There's just no way to make it secure enough with the travel schedules such people have, and the adversary's inspectors would have to follow them around to enforce it so there's no privacy either. Not to mention all the world leaders occasionally gather in one place, which raises the danger even more.

2Knight Lee
What if the bomb was a ring around their neck or something?