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Building up to an Internal Family Systems model

Thank you very much for the detailed reply! You answered all my questions.

I got the Self-Therapy audiobook after writing my comment. Looks great so far.

Building up to an Internal Family Systems model

Wow, this is all very interesting.

I have been using this framework for a bit and I think I have found some important clues about some exile-manager-firefighter dynamics in myself. Although I'm just starting and I still have to clarify my next steps, I feel hopeful that this is the right direction.

There are some things which I would like to know more about. Feel free to answer any.

Which agent should the sympathetic listener be talking to? The manager, the exile, or both?

Assuming that one correctly identifies which thoughts (and ultimately, which situat... (read more)

5Kaj_Sotala6y

Glad to hear it's been of use! First with any of the managers which might be protecting the exiles. Eventually they might give access to the exile, but it's important to not try to rush through them. You only go to the exile after the managers have agreed to give you access to it: bypassing them risks causing damage because the managers had concerns which weren't taken into account. (Self-Therapy has detailed instructions on this.) You might e.g. end up exposing an exile in a situation where you don't have the resources to handle it, and then instead of healing the exile, you end up worsening the original trauma. That will also have the added effect of making your managers less likely to trust you with access to the exile again. Though sometimes I've had exiles pop up pretty spontaneously, without needing to negotiate with managers. In those situations I've just assumed that all managers are fine with this, since there's no sense of a resistance to contacting the exile. If that happens then it's probably okay, but if it feels like any managers are getting in the way, then address their concerns as much as possible. (As the instructor said in an IFS training I did: "to go fast, you need to go slow".) IFS also recommends checking back with the managers after healing the exile, so that they can see that the exile is actually healed now and that they can behave differently in the future. Also, you may want to keep checking back with the exile for a while afterwards, to ensure that it's really been healed. Depends. I think that either are possible, but I don't have a hard and fast rule: usually I've just gone with whatever felt more right. But I'd guess that in the situations where you can get parts to update just by talking to them, it's in situations where you've already accumulated plenty of evidence about how things are, and the relevant parts just need to become aware of them. E.g. if you had some challenge which was very specifically about your childhood enviro

Unrolling social metacognition: Three levels of meta are not enough.

sampe7y211

Alex felt it was bad that Alex felt that Bailey felt that Alex leaving out the milk was bad.

I want to point out that not all instances of the word "felt" mean the same thing here, and I want to split the two meanings into new words for clarity. I think this has consequences about what it means to have feelings about one's own feelings.

Bailey felt that Alex leaving out the milk was bad.

In this case, "feeling" stands for "evaluating". Bailey gives a low value to Alex's action, and in some sense, maybe even to Alex. E.g. Alex is dumb, or Alex's actions

sampe7y10

Kaj, where can I read more about the three marks of existence? Preferably something as detailed as possible while still being readable in no more than a full day.

3Kaj_Sotala7y

Good question, I haven't really encountered anything that would provide a very good and comprehensive explanation in third-person terms. The sources that I've seen are more concerned with giving you pointers to things in your own experience that you can investigate and then come to experience them directly, as that's the thing that actually causes your mind to update, whereas simply getting a conceptual description of them doesn't.

Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted To Know

sampe7y20

How exactly does one go in order to get a diagnosis (and also treatment, but removing the huge doubt is the main thing) of Non-24-Hour-Sleep Disorder?

And can it be used as a medical certificate to obtain health benefits?

OpenAI releases functional Dota 5v5 bot, aims to beat world champions by August

sampe7y40

As someone who is just starting on machine learning as an autodidact, here are my thoughts on what's happening (probably an incoherent ramble).

I wouldn't have expected gradient descent to find particularly great solutions for Dota. When OpenAI released the 1v1 bot with all the restrictions of the case, I figured that was about the maximum achievable through gradient descent and that if they managed to do more in the following years (like they just did), and if someone managed to make a similar architecture work for even a slightly broader range of games, e... (read more)

6jessicata7y

The thing you are describing as GamesZero would almost certainly require quite a lot of game-specific training data (OpenAI Five required hundreds of years of training data). Getting this much data is completely impractical in the real world; this is the main reason why deep learning is not very successful in robotics.

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