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Thanks, from a very short wikipedia skim, it seems very relevant indeed!

3Archimedes
The terms "tactical voting" or "strategic voting" are also relevant.

Sometimes, when rating a film on IMDb, I give either 1 or 10 stars—not my honest rating—to maximally steer the average toward what I think it should be. Has anyone explored the dynamics of what happens if everyone always votes maximally or minimally to steer the average toward their desired value? Does this behavior have a name? I couldn’t find anything in a quick search.

I’ve done some thinking myself, and Monte Carlo[1] simulations show a low average deviation (around 0.6/10 stars) between the steering equilibrium and the honest average when the popu... (read more)

4mattmacdermott
Relevant keyword: I think the term for interactions like this where players have an incentive to misreport their preferences in order to bring about their desired outcome is “not strategyproof”.

I wouldn’t say the subsconscious calibrating on more substantial measures of success, such has “how happy something made me” or “how much status that seems to have brought” is irrational. What you’re proposing, it seems to me, is calibrating only on how good of an idea it was from the predictor part / System 2. Which gets calibrated, I would guess, when the person analyses the situation? But if the system 2 is sufficiently bad, calibrating on pure results is a good idea to shield against pursuing some goal, the pursuit of which yields nothing but evaluatio... (read more)

“My experience may not be applicable to you.”

Thanks for the note - my experience has been exactly the opposite. A classic case of the law of equal and opposite advice :)

Another option after acknowledging the spiral is giving yourself 30 minutes to do nothing, and doing a Gendlin’s Focusing / IFS parts work with your emotional fatigue during that time. Perhaps laziness is guilt from not doing things in the last day or two. Perhaps it’s a symptom of long-term mental exhaustion. Either way, if you manage to find the time and are skilled enough in it, that’s one of the best ways to at the very least better understand what’s happening. In some cases, if it’s a very recent emotion, you can even become motivated and productive again in half an hour.

On your definition of 'poverty', Disneyland makes the world poorer.

I think the comparison with Disneyland misses the point. The essay measures poverty by the level of desperation people experience. People don’t typically work extra hours out of desperation to take their kids to Disneyland; they do it out of a desire for additional enjoyment. The 60-hour work week should be understood as working far more hours than one would if they weren't desperate for essential resources.

Poverty is about lacking crucial resources necessary for living, not just lacking lu... (read more)

8dr_s
I think the crux here is the "relative" poverty aspect. Comparison with others is actually really important, it turns out. Going to Disneyland isn't just a net positive; not going to Disneyland can be a negative if your kids expect you to and all their friends are. A lot of human activities are aimed at winning status games with other humans, and in that sense, in our society of abundance, marketing has vastly offset those gains by making sure it's painfully clear which things make you rich and which aren't worth all that much. So basically the Poverty Restoring force is "other people". No matter the actual material conditions there's always going to be by definition a bottom something percentile in status, and they'll be frustrated by this condition and trying to get out of it to earn some respect by the rest of society.
aphyer100

Short answer: Money is fungible.  

Long answer: If you work 60 hours a week, buy essential items, and can't buy luxury items, it is reasonable to say that you needed to work 60 hours a week just to afford essential items.  If you work 60 hours a week, buy essential items, and also buy luxury items, it seems more reasonable to say that you worked [X] hours a week to buy essential items and [60-X] hours a week to buy luxury items, for some X<60.

If you ignore the fungibility of money, you can say things like this:

  1. Bob works 40 hours a week.  H
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A really neat directly applicable article on LessWrong, thanks for sharing this! Since the trigger is obvious, it shouldn’t be hard to implement. Seems worth it, as those moments happen often to me.

 Right, I completely missed the network effects, 5 minutes of thinking through wasn’t enough. May be there even are good apps there, which didn’t make it through the development and marketing part. Thanks, Vanessa!

I’m confused: if the dating apps keep getting worse, how come nobody has come up with a good one, or at least a clone of OkCupid? Like, as far as I can understand not even “a good matching system is somehow less profitable than making people swipe all the time (surely it’d still be profitable on the absolute scale)” or “it requires a decently big initial investment” can explain a complete lack of good products in a very demanded area. Has anyone digged into it / tried to start a good dating app as a summer project?

4Gunnar_Zarncke
People try new dating platforms all the time. It's what Y Combinator calls a tarpit. The problem sounds solvable, but the solution is elusive. As I have said elsewhere: Dating apps are broken because the incentives of the usual core approach don't work. On the supplier side: Misaligned incentives (keep users on the platform) and opaque algorithms lead to bad matches.  On the demand side: Misaligned incentives (first impressions, low cost to exit) and no plausible deniability lead to predators being favored.
3MondSemmel
On this topic you might be interested in skimming Zvi's three dating roundup posts. Here's the third, which covers dating apps in the first two headings, but all three posts mention them a lot (Ctrl + F "dating app").
8Shoshannah Tekofsky
I discovered the Netherlands actually has a good dating app that doesn't exist outside of it... I'm rather baffled. I have no idea how they started. I've messaged them asking if they will localize and expand and they thanked me for the compliment so... Dunno? It's called Paiq and has a ton of features I've never seen before, like speed dating, picture hiding by default, quizzes you make for people that they can try to pass to get a match with you, photography contacts that involve taking pictures of stuff around and getting matched on that, and a few other things... It's just this grab bag of every way to match people that is not your picture or a blurb. It's really good!
2Seth Herd
You need to have bunches of people use it for it to be any good, no matter how good the algorithm.
7Vanessa Kosoy
Creating a new dating app is hard because of network effects: for a dating app to easily attract users, it needs to already have many users. Convincing users to pay for the app is even harder. And, if you expect your app to be only marginally profitable even if it succeeds, you will have a hard time attracting investors.

The Stoics put this idea in a much kinder way: control the controllable (specifically our actions and attitudes), accept the uncontrollable. 
The problem is, people's could's are broken. I have managed to make myself much unhappier by thinking I can control my actions until I read Nate Soares' post I linked above. You can't, even in the everyday definition of control, forgetting about paradoxes of "free will".

Mentioned in another comment, but not explicitly: this falls under the general optimisation mindset. Not just blindly repeating the set of actions that once led to a positive outcome, but experimenting further to find the sweet spot/area - be it the optimal amount of More Dakka or Less Dakka. For example, in "The How of Happiness", the author explicitly advises doing the gratitude journal once a week rather than every day, to make it a ritual of actually feeling and expressing gratitude, rather than quickly writing down 3 relatively positive things as quic... (read more)