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"Death gives rise to meaning" can have many interpretations. One of the most common is that death makes life finite.  Each of us only have so many movements in our life, so we should look to get the most out of life by living a meaningful life. 

Conversely, if you had an infinity, it would not matter much what you did, because you could do everything, which would mean that nothing really matters all that much.

1Luaancz
And of course, most of those interpretations are also pretty classical cached thoughts, including this one. It's a great example, though! The fact that we have a limited amount of movements in our life doesn't prevent people from watching random videos on YouTube, even if those people don't believe in some infinite afterlife (and those who do believe don't tend to avoid potentially hurting that afterlife nearly as much as they should - whether that's belief in cryogenics, brain uploading or some pearly gates somewhere). I can do so many things that I don't do, even excluding limits of time and even excluding things I have little interest in. If anything, I expect with infinite lives, we'd do a lot more in general, not less. Because why not? I feel this is similar to how e.g. some theistic people have trouble understanding why atheistic people would ever find meaning in life, if it wasn't pre-designed and if they didn't have an infinite afterlife. When asked "What's the point if there's no God?", why don't we reply "What's the point of this life if you expect to live forever in a completely different universe with no real connection to this one? Just pass a bar for acceptance and nothing else matters?" If death gives meaning to life, why do they believe the afterlife doesn't have death? Why not an infinite recursion of death? But even that would just be an infinite life - and thus using the same argument, should be meaningless. Maybe that's insight into this argument too - the idea that the infinite afterlife that follows your short "real" life actually is meaningless, because you can't actually affect anything anymore? I would expect an infinite life to have pretty similar patterns to our finite lives. Sometimes, you do pointless things. You spend some time not working on your new book, or not studying. Maybe you spend a hundred years watching YouTube instead of two weeks - but that makes little difference if your life is infinite; you're still "wasting" more of

How do you consider interpretation of the cache? For example, 
"Death gives rise to meaning" can be interpreted in many different ways, as some can see it as inspiring while others as meaningless, confusing or untrue.

1lesswronguser123
Eliezer to me seems to be against the "death gives life meaning" cache from what I am able to predict so far since he seems to support cryonics,transhumanism etc