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I think there's some confusion in your discussion of variant growth rates. Moritz Gerstung and Andy Slavitt are both quoting numbers around 10% per day, which corresponds to the new/old variant ratio having a ~7 day doubling time. 

This is consistent with the CDC Nowcast.

For comparison, BA.1/Delta had a ~2.5 day doubling time, Delta/Alpha ratio about 5 days, and Alpha/wild about 12 days.

Looking at cumulative numbers per population on OurWorldInData:

As of Nov 21, Germany had performed 1001 tests per thousand people, vs 4697 for the UK.

They'd found 64.6 cases per thousand vs 144.6 in the UK.

The cumulative CFR was 1.84% vs 1.46% in the UK. Checking 3 weeks later for lag effects, Dec 12 was 1.62% vs 1.35%.

My guess is that all else equal, the UK has had a similar or higher IFR, but is catching a larger fraction of infections. In general. I'm not going to try to tease apart the differences in the current or recent situations.

Retracted: Helix changed their PCR tests. The new ones won't have an SGTF signal for this variant.

Retracting a comment on a previous post:

Previously said Helix had PCR tests that would "flag" this variant & predicted they'd give us handy graphs from this data. The company says they changed their PCR's a couple months ago, and the new ones won't flag the variant.

Omicron has the same spike protein deletion as Alpha. This deletion causes a strong 'SGTF' signal in certain PCR tests. Back when we were most concerned about Alpha, the company Helix made a page that showed what percentage of their PCR's had SGTF by date & state. Only enough data to use for CA, TX, and FL, but much more up-to-date than sequencing data.

The page seems to be deleted for now, but here is a link the company's Twitter. I expect at some point they'll announce they're doing the same thing again. https://twitter.com/my_helix

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1ZachWeems
Retracted: Helix changed their PCR tests. The new ones won't have an SGTF signal for this variant.

the body starts attacking the cells that produce the antigen... including the brain as polyethylene glycol goes through the blood brain barrier

 

How do you know what you think you know? Specifically, regarding the PEG enabling the LNP's to cross the BBB, and regarding a followup by immune cells that have crossed the BBB?

2ChristianKl
There are to lines here. PEG gets used to get other medication past the blood brain barrier in pharmaceutical applications where you want to get things past the blood brain barrier. Secondly, for getting the drug approval companies had to measure where in the body the vaccine goes. If you look at the EMA report for the Moderna vaccine it suggests that the vaccine goes into all parts of the body with the expection of the kidneys and that includes with the brain where it can be measured up to 25 hours after the vaccine gets injected. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17068976/ does suggest that immune cells can cross into the CNS and are active there. I don't think it's studied to what extend they do this here.

Various points on Delta & vaccination:

-On the UK vaccination data, the 79% number is for Pfizer and AZ combined. Since the vast majority of US vaccinations are Pfizer or Moderna, the Pfizer number should be much closer to the truth. Their EV is 87.9%, with a confidence interval from 78.2 to 93.2%.

-Looking at Israel's Delta/vaccination document linked to in my other comment, they don't have many hospitalizations or severe disease cases for either vaccinated or unvaccinated. So I don't expect their expected value number to be very meaningful, due to huge... (read more)

I dug into the Israel vaccine data some. Full data is lacking and I strongly suspected the true VE is significantly higher, based on the UK's 78.2-93.2% estimate for Pfizer 2 dose. Below is my thought process.

TL;DR I thought I would find a clear reason the Israeli data was wrong. I tried to see if the interval was so large that the Israeli estimate was meaningless or if there was a huge bias, but nothing solid came up, so I've gone from "confident" to "somewhat nervous".

Here's the announcement: https://www.gov.il/en/departments/news/06072021-04

And a more q... (read more)

Oops, missed this. I don't check LW messages much. 

20% was not an exact value. At the time I wasn't aware of any estimates. Since then I've heard that the standard curve fit returns a ~50% growth per 6.5 days, some or all of which may be due to immune escape.)

I had a couple assumptions that made me think the SA strain was less contagious in expectation:

  1. High contagiousness is more likely when high mutation numbers were seen, and correspondingly emergence would tend to be later. The SA variant gained local dominance earlier than the UK.
  2. There was (and is
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I notice I'm confused- SA's variant, if legitimately due to a huge jump in R, doesn't have huge numbers of mutations. 

If the UK variant had a 45% jump in R, and SA's has a 20%, and >20% is much more commonly due to IC'd patients, then it seems reasonable that the super-fit, highly mutated strains show up alongside the more mundanely fit, moderately mutated ones. The super-fit's take longer to bake but they take off faster. But then again I'm trying to make a theory to explain 2 data points that I'm not 100% are both correct, so as much as this feels correct it probably isn't.

5Lukas_Gloor
So the emerging wisdom is that the SA variant is less contagious, or are you just using 20% as an example? The fact that SA is currently at the height of summer, and that they went from "things largely under control" to "more hospitalizations and deaths than the 1st wave in their winter" in a short amount of time, makes me suspect that the SA variant is at least as contagious as the UK variant. (I'm largely ignoring politicians bickering at each other over this, and of course if there's already been research on this question then I'll immediately quit speculating!) 

AFAICT the reason immunocompromised patients are important is they can stay infected for several months. I read a paper recently where such a patient held on for about 5 months, and by my count, samples averaged 3 mutations per month (although I'm sure there's a better way to adjust the numbers than what I did). So there's time to infect enough IC'd patients, plus n months to evolve in them. If antibodies are a necessary ingredient that would delay these steps more. Then there's time for the highly fit strain to outcompete other strains, which is proportio... (read more)

7ZachWeems
I notice I'm confused- SA's variant, if legitimately due to a huge jump in R, doesn't have huge numbers of mutations.  If the UK variant had a 45% jump in R, and SA's has a 20%, and >20% is much more commonly due to IC'd patients, then it seems reasonable that the super-fit, highly mutated strains show up alongside the more mundanely fit, moderately mutated ones. The super-fit's take longer to bake but they take off faster. But then again I'm trying to make a theory to explain 2 data points that I'm not 100% are both correct, so as much as this feels correct it probably isn't.

This post helped me clarify my thoughts on interference with supervisors.

Before this, I was unclear on how to draw the boundary between interference (like a cleaning robot disabling a human to stop punishments for broken furniture) and positive environmental changes (like turning on a light fixture to see better) in a concrete way. The difference I thought of is that the supervisor exerts direct pressure to keep the agent from altering the supervisor. So a rule to prevent treacherous turns might look like "if an aspect of the environment is optimizing... (read more)

I don't think this demonstration truly captures treacherous turns, precisely because the agent needs to learn about how it can misbehave over multiple trials. As I understand it, a treacherous turn involves the agent modeling the environment sufficiently well that it can predict the payoff of misbehaving before taking any overt actions. The Goertzel prediction is what is happening here.

It's important to start getting a grasp on how treacherous turns may work, and this demonstration helps; my disagreement is on how to label it.

2Michaël Trazzi
I agree. To be able to make this prediction, it must already know about the preferences of the overseer, know that the overseer would punish unaligned behavior, potentially estimating the punishing reward or predicting the actions the overseer would take. To make this prediction it must therefore have some kind of knowledge about how overseers behave, what actions they are likely to punish. If this knowledge does not come from experience, it must come from somewhere else, maybe from reading books/articles/Wikipedia or oberving this behaviour somewhere else, but this is outside of what I can implement right now. Yes. I agree that this does not correctly illustrate a treacherous right now, but it is moving towards it.
2[anonymous]
I agree that this could be presented differently in order to be "narratively" closer to the canonical tracherous turn. However, in my opinion, this still counts as a good demonstration; think of the first 1,999 episodes (out of 2,000) as happening in Link's mind, before taking his "real" decisions in the last episode. Granted, in our world AI would not be able to predict the future, but it would have access to sophisticated predictive tools, including machine learning.

Currently we can access all course materials at once. For the time being, it might be better to hide the incomplete bits so nobody can wander ahead and miss things. Slash, it might be better to force users to try one section before unlocking the next; otherwise people might eternally put off the hard sections.

That said, the platform looks new so it might not support this.