Annoyance comments on Absolute denial for atheists - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Annoyance 16 July 2009 05:53:12PM 1 point [-]

These are excellent examples. I don't see why they're being voted down.

The second, however, is much better than the first.

Comment author: PeterS 16 July 2009 06:00:44PM 0 points [-]

I don't see why they're being voted down.

I'm blaming it having successfully triggered the "absolute denial macro" in at least a few people :D.

The second, however, is much better than the first.

Why's that?

Comment author: Annoyance 16 July 2009 06:08:14PM 0 points [-]

Clarity. The first depends on the interpretation of "abuse", and as such I think it's very likely that many people will agree with it to some degree.

The second is much more precise; although I think it is demonstrably untrue, I expect it will draw much reflexive denial.

Comment author: PeterS 16 July 2009 06:39:44PM 0 points [-]

although I think it is demonstrably untrue, I expect it will draw much reflexive denial.

I'm having trouble reconciling those two statements. I'm even having trouble trying to express just why they seem... inconsistent, or inharmonious? Could you elaborate a bit?

Comment author: billswift 16 July 2009 07:52:21PM *  1 point [-]

I think he means that it can be reliably argued (demonstrated) to not be true, but many denials will be by people who cannot adequately argue the point, it will just be reflexive for them.