DanArmak comments on Open Thread: December 2009 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: DanArmak 01 December 2009 09:39:40PM 2 points [-]

It was never there in the first place.

Oh. So these communities, and Key's life, are extremely atypical of that world's humanity as a whole. That's something worth stating because the story doesn't even hint at it.

I'd be interested in hearing about how they handle telling young people about the wider world. How do they handle people who want to go out and live there and who come back one day? How do they stop the governments of the nations where they actually live from enforcing laws locally? Do these higher-level governments not have any such laws?

I find it a little puzzling that you have trouble thinking of how one could fill one's time without significant economic competition.

Many people can. I just don't find it convincing that everyone could without there being quite a few unsatisfied people around.

Comment author: Zack_M_Davis 01 December 2009 09:49:02PM 2 points [-]

The exchange above reminds me of Robin Hanson's criticism of the social science in Greg Egan's works.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 20 December 2009 04:23:55PM 0 points [-]

Oh. So these communities, and Key's life, are extremely atypical of that world's humanity as a whole. That's something worth stating because the story doesn't even hint at it.

I disagree: it doesn't matter for the story whether the communities are typical or atypical for humanity as a whole, so mentioning it is unnecessary.

Comment author: Alicorn 01 December 2009 09:54:27PM -1 points [-]

I'd be interested in hearing about how they handle telling young people about the wider world.

The relatively innocuous information about the wider world is there to read about on the earliest guidelists; less pleasant stuff gets added over time.

How do they handle people who want to go out and live there and who come back one day?

You can leave. That's fine. You can't come back without passing more tests. (They are very big on tests.)

How do they stop the governments of the nations where they actually live from enforcing laws locally?

They aren't politically components of other nations. The communities are all collectively one nation in lots of geographical parts.

Many people can. I just don't find it convincing that everyone could without there being quite a few unsatisfied people around.

They can leave. The communities are great for people whose priorities are being content and secure. Risk-takers and malcontents can strike off on their own.

Comment author: DanArmak 01 December 2009 10:11:01PM 0 points [-]

They aren't politically components of other nations. The communities are all collectively one nation in lots of geographical parts.

I wish our own world was nice enough for that kind of lifestyle to exist (e.g., purchasing sovereignity over pieces of settle-able land; or existing towns seceding from their nation)... It's a good dream :-)

Comment author: Alicorn 01 December 2009 10:24:28PM 0 points [-]

It was the first thing.