Alicorn comments on Open Thread: February 2010 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Alicorn 13 February 2010 05:42:42PM 1 point [-]

What are Bell's inequalities, and why do quantumly-behaving things with deterministic causes have to follow them?

Comment author: MBlume 15 February 2010 08:54:49AM 6 points [-]

Alicorn, if you're free after dinner tomorrow, I can probably explain this one.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 15 February 2010 09:06:04AM 3 points [-]

Um... am I missing something or did no one link to, ahem:

http://lesswrong.com/lw/q1/bells_theorem_no_epr_reality/

Comment author: Alicorn 15 February 2010 07:30:43PM 0 points [-]

Thank you, although I find this a little too technical to wrap my brain around at the moment.

Comment author: byrnema 13 February 2010 06:21:35PM *  3 points [-]

The EPR paradox (Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen paradox) is a set of experiments that suggest 'spooky action at a distance' because particles appear to share information instantaneously, at a distance, long after an interaction between them.

People applying "common sense" would like to argue that there is some way that the information is being shared -- some hidden variable that collects and shares the information between them.

Bell's Inequality only assumes there there is some such hidden variable operating locally* -- with no specifications of any kind on how it works -- and deduces correlations between particles sharing information that is in contradiction with experiments.

* that is, mechanically rather than 'magically' at a distance

Comment author: tut 13 February 2010 06:26:55PM *  1 point [-]

Well, actually everything has to follow them because of Bell's Theorem.

Edit: The second link should be to this explanation, which is somewhat less funny, but actually explains the experiments that violate the theorem. Sorry that I took so long, but it appeared that the server was down when I first tried to fix it, so I went and did other things for half an hour.

Comment author: CronoDAS 13 February 2010 06:14:48PM -1 points [-]

There's no good explanation anywhere. :(