byrnema comments on Open Thread: February 2010 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: byrnema 13 February 2010 07:03:47PM *  4 points [-]

Yes, most Eliezer Yudkowskys will 1-box. And most byrnemas too. But the new twist (new for me, anyway) is that the Eliezer's that two-box are the ones that really win, as rare as they are.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 13 February 2010 07:22:04PM *  2 points [-]

The one who wins or loses is the one who makes the decision. You might as well say that if someone buys a quantum lottery ticket, the one who really wins is the future self who wins the lottery a few days later; but actually, the one who buys the lottery ticket loses.

Comment author: gregconen 13 February 2010 07:14:31PM 1 point [-]

The slight quantum chance that EY will 2-box causes the sum of EYs to lose, relative to a perfect 1-boxer, assuming Omega correctly predicts that chance and randomly fills boxes accordingly. The precise Everett branches where EY 2-boxes and where EY loses are generally different, but the higher the probability that he 1-boxes, the higher his expected value is.

Comment author: byrnema 13 February 2010 07:46:15PM *  2 points [-]

And, also, we define winning as winning on average. A person can get lucky and win the lottery -- doesn't mean that person was rational to play the lottery.