Vaniver comments on A survey of anti-cryonics writing - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Vaniver 19 November 2010 05:46:46AM 6 points [-]

I'm not sure whether or not Melody Maxim should count. She isn't anti-cryonics, but is thoroughly disgusted with the cryonics organizations that exist today- which seems strongly relevant for anyone deciding whether or not to sign up, but not for anyone interested in theoretical probabilities.

Comment author: ciphergoth 19 November 2010 06:48:22AM 3 points [-]

I certainly don't want to sign up with organisations like Alcor and CI. I want to sign up with Virgin Cryonics. Unfortunately the latter doesn't exist, so I'm signed up with CI. In answer to your question I think there's a huge gulf between "cryonics is a good idea that should be better implemented than it is" and "cryonics is crazy".

Comment author: wedrifid 19 November 2010 08:36:23AM 0 points [-]

Virgin Cryonics?

Comment author: ciphergoth 19 November 2010 02:14:45PM 1 point [-]

If anyone was going to turn cryonics into a mass-market product, Richard Branson might...

Comment author: wedrifid 19 November 2010 05:04:12PM *  1 point [-]

Wow. The same 'Virgin' that is known here for the budget airline. I had no idea that he was likely to be into cryonics kinds of ventures too.

Comment author: David_Gerard 19 November 2010 05:33:37PM 1 point [-]

Having flown on VirginBlue in Australia, presumably this would entail setting up a cryonics operation that buys thirty-year-old equipment cheap, and charging the patients' families for extra LN2 by the litre. Flying on VirginBlue involves a certain amount of the passengers waving their arms and chanting "I believe in aviation! I believe in aviation!" Why no, it wasn't a great flight ...

Comment author: wedrifid 19 November 2010 05:40:02PM 0 points [-]

Having flown on VirginBlue in Australia, presumably this would entail setting up a cryonics operation that buys thirty-year-old equipment cheap, and charging the patients' families for extra LN2 by the litre.

Could not have said it better!

Comment author: ciphergoth 20 November 2010 10:17:46AM 0 points [-]

Not that he's a transhumanist, he just runs a huge variety of different businesses and doesn't mind doing unusual things eg Virgin Galactic.

Comment author: Jakeness 18 December 2012 10:07:49PM 0 points [-]

Now that the blog has been made private, could you provide a summary of her claims?

Comment author: Vaniver 19 December 2012 02:48:50AM *  0 points [-]

It would have been much easier before the blog was made private! (Looking around, apparently that happened over a year ago.)

I think this will give a better impression than one that I can build from my memory. The basic takeaway I recall was that, to a cryomedical technician, the cryonics culture looked like one of wishful thinking, incompetence, and corruption.

It looks like Melody is still posting on LW, though infrequently.

Comment author: gwern 04 June 2011 02:36:45AM 0 points [-]

Your link isn't very useful - I'm told I don't have permission to read it.

Comment author: Vaniver 04 June 2011 02:52:26AM 0 points [-]

It appears to no longer be public. No clue what's up with that.

Comment author: Perplexed 04 June 2011 02:52:09AM 0 points [-]

In fact, the link takes me to a Google login screen - which makes it look like that phishing scheme Google just warned us about. There is no reason I should have to login just to read a blog posting.

As far as I can tell, it is a real Google login screen, but still ...

Comment author: AdeleneDawner 04 June 2011 03:12:26AM 0 points [-]

It looks like a real google login screen, but I'm clearly logged into google since I'm checking my email in another tab, and it still wants my password. I don't trust it.

Comment author: gwern 04 June 2011 03:23:42AM 1 point [-]

Blogger seems to be a bit different and not quite integrated. For example, I get no password request - it just tells me I'm not allowed and suggests trying a different account.

Comment author: topynate 19 November 2010 09:49:05AM 0 points [-]

Is there a ceremony theoretical probabilities must undergo to become practical? :-)

Comment author: Vaniver 19 November 2010 04:49:00PM 0 points [-]

Yes- it must describe a practical event, not a theoretical event. "Can I survive brain surgery?" is a theoretical question about technology; "Will I survive brain surgery performed by X?" is a practical question that is the conjunction of the first question and "Is X good enough at performing brain surgery?"