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Why was this voted up to +4? Y'all are way too scared of being labeled cultish if you're voting this stuff up.
I really wish there was some way to teach arrogance. It seems to be such a large factor in whether people actually make progress as rationalists or not.
Just keep modeling. ;)
I liked the suggestions. I wouldn't permanently ban any topics but if every couple of months we stopped talking about transhumanist topics I think the results would be really constructive and help grow the community.
I don't usually find cause to say this in reply to downvoted comments, but that is worth a post. Particularly because the conception you have of arrogance (or at least, the conceptions that I infer you have about arrogance) crosses some significant inferential barriers so is lost somewhat in this context.
I think The Proper Use of Humility, The Proper Use of Doubt, Science Doesn't Trust Your Rationality, and Einstein's Superpowers contain most of the essential ideas, which isn't to say that a post amplifying the point wouldn't be useful.
I agree on both counts, and thanks for rounding up the links. Somewhere in my collection of half-baked drafts is a post specific to arrogance itself, how the definition is tied to status, when it is useful and when it isn't.
Why was this not downvoted to -10? Y'all are way too cultish if you are not voting this stuff down.
I really wish there was some way to teach irony. It seems to be such a large factor in whether people actually make progress as rationalists or not.
One symptom from the linked definition of groupthink:
Seriously though man, you're the one that has the overwhelming karma lead around here. Seems a little petty to police 4 dissenting votes.
Karma isn't the point.