jimmy comments on Closet survey #1 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: jimmy 14 March 2009 07:36:33PM 1 point [-]

Is your only evidence that it should be hard to get caught if guilty, but easy to frame someone?

What do you suspect is the typical motive?

Comment author: Anonymous508 14 March 2009 08:02:34PM 8 points [-]

The traditional murder motives apply: revenge, and eliminating rivals. Revenge seems like it would be the most likely motive.

There have been cases in which prosecutions were based solely on the use of a credit card number which the owner claims must have been stolen; those cases most likely involve card numbers which really were stolen, but from a random victim, not to frame someone in particular. However, those cases are publicly visible evidence that framing someone is easy, and at least some malefactors must have noticed.

People convicted would tend to maintain their innocence regardless of whether they were innocent or guity, so that can't be used to determine how many people were really innocent. Computer forensics aren't very useful, because a sophisticated attacker can modify all the evidence. One way to find out would be to pose as a black market buyer wishing to frame a (fictional) person, and ask anyone who offers to perform the service whether they have experience doing that sort of thing. However, that would provide only qualitative data, nothing quantitative.

Comment author: billswift 14 March 2009 11:30:11PM 2 points [-]

To pump up arrest or conviction stats.

I also remember reading, several years ago, that most web sites offering child porn were actually run by the FBI. No way of knowing if it's true.

Comment author: MichaelBishop 15 March 2009 05:34:08PM 3 points [-]

Could they reliably avoid leaks over long periods of time?

Comment author: Strange7 14 April 2010 02:00:13PM 0 points [-]

Would they need to? Any given site is easy enough to shut down if you're the operator, and presumably the FBI would know how to cover it's own tracks.