multifoliaterose comments on Years saved: Cryonics vs VillageReach - Less Wrong
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I agree with the second paragraph of steven0461's comment.
The present posting ignores the impact of signing up for cryonics / donating to VillageReach on existential risk which should outweigh all other considerations in utilitarian expected value.
I presently believe that for most people who are interested x-risk reduction, the expected x-risk reduction of signing up for cryonics is lower than that of the expected x-risk reduction of donating to VillageReach. My thinking here is that donating to VillageReach signals philanthropic intention and affords networking opportunities with other people who care about global welfare who might be persuaded to work against x-risk whereas signing up for cryonics signals weirdness to everyone outside of a very narrow set of people.
However, as Carl Shulman has remarked:
And lsparrish has written:
The beneficial impact of signing up for cryonics on x-risk reduction seems to me to be predicated on the possibility of spreading cryonics to a population positioned to decrease x-risk who would not work to decrease x-risk if they were not signed up for cryonics.
I would expect the existential risk reduction returns from encouraging long-term thinking by getting people to sign up for cryonics to be dwarfed by the returns from encouraging long-term thinking directly, and I would expect those returns to be dwarfed by the returns from encouraging rational long-term thinking on especially important topics.
That would make cryonics a self-serving reward that utilitarians award themselves after doing some good deeds.
It's not hypocritical if we acknowledge that our values are partially but not completely selfish.
Yes, I can imagine that position. I was more curious to see if anyone else was going to try and make a utilitarian case for it.