wedrifid comments on Causal diagrams and software engineering - Less Wrong

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Comment author: wedrifid 14 March 2012 06:29:11PM 0 points [-]

What there is difficult for you to understand? I can't make it much simpler than that and it seems to be more or less well formed vernacular.

If you are trying in a backhanded way to make the point "Humans are machines! The set you mention is empty!" then yes, that is rather close to von Neumann's point.

Comment author: [deleted] 14 March 2012 07:42:18PM 0 points [-]

If you are trying in a backhanded way to make the point "Humans are machines! The set you mention is empty!" then yes, that is rather close to von Neumann's point.

Indeed, I can't think of any plausible meanings for machine, do and tell which would make that quotation non-tautological but true.

Comment author: wedrifid 14 March 2012 09:25:11PM 0 points [-]

Indeed, I can't think of any plausible meanings for machine, do and tell which would make that quotation non-tautological but true.

And if everyone else was able to see that I guess von Neumann would never have needed to make the statement.!

Comment author: tut 14 March 2012 06:34:43PM 0 points [-]

Sorry. What I meant is that computer programs can't speak English, or any other natural language. When you get a program that can speak English it will most likely be trivial to make a program that does the translation CronoDAS was talking about.

Comment author: wedrifid 14 March 2012 06:41:39PM 0 points [-]

Ahh, I see. I may have been less confused if you replied to the quote directly.

Natural language processing is certainly one task that has not yet been eliminated as a counter-example.