Logos01 comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 13, chapter 81 - Less Wrong
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The mere fact that you, personally, dislike the contextual definition I am using does not make that context nor the definition illegitimate.
You didn't lose ... as much as you could have. You still lost. If you do not gain at least as much as is taken from you, that is a loss. If you gamble twenty dollars and win a five dollar pot; you have won your wager but have lost fifteen dollars. Did you lose as much as you could have had you lost the wager altogether? No. But you still are down in real terms; you have still lost compared to before the wager.
There is absolutely nothing misleading about this. There is nothing abusive of the words about this. It's a simple factual and literal use of the term "to lose". It really doesn't matter if you were forced into the wager; you have still lost.
This is a legitimate usage of the term, "to lose", and I really don't see why you're so vehemently opposed to it.
Because there is already a contextual definition of "lose" with association to war that is so well established that it's assumed by default.
If Voldemort hadn't started the war, they would almost certainly be better off. We would also be better off if we never got dustspecks in our eyes. Some utility hits are for practical purposes unavoidable. But Dumbledore's faction resisted, and resisted successfully; they were not overcome by their aggressor and did not take the major utility hit of defeat. If they had resisted ineffectually, failed to even delay his conquest, that would have been pointless and futile, but that didn't happen. Nor did they "win" the war in a way that left them at least as badly off as if they had been defeated. The effort they invested into resistance paid utility dividends.