fubarobfusco comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 15, chapter 84 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: fubarobfusco 12 April 2012 07:30:19AM 0 points [-]

In Methods of Rationality, the Weasley twins refer to the Map as being part of the Hogwarts security system. So it probably gets the information from the wards.

Yes, but how do the wards get people's names? It's not like the name "Ron Weasley" is tattooed on every molecule of the boy's body.

True Names are a feature of some systems of magic — Earthsea comes to mind — but not of the canon Potterverse, nor of MoR as far as I can recall. In canon, the name "Voldemort" has unusual power because of specific spells keyed on it, and it's an adopted name.

Real-time Legilimency? If so, we would expect the map to display whatever name matched a person's self-image; and a sufficiently potent Occlumens could be expected to fool it by sufficiently good Method acting.

On the other hand, there's a subsystem of Hogwarts Castle that does get told the name of every student on their first day, and has a close-up chance to read it from them by what resembles Legilimency: the Sorting Hat. Possibly a similar system is in place for professors and others ... which involves the Headmaster drawing a circle ...

Comment author: pedanterrific 12 April 2012 07:38:06AM *  0 points [-]

This was recently discussed here. I came up with this specific idea here.

The 'drawing a circle' thing: Dumbledore expects Riddle to show up on the Map as Riddle forty-five years after he graduated. Apparently student records are preserved; professors wouldn't need to be named to the wards unless they weren't alumni.

Comment author: [deleted] 13 April 2012 04:23:12AM 2 points [-]

It seems like an important feature of a security system would be to detect outsiders as well as students.

Comment author: pedanterrific 13 April 2012 04:24:58AM 0 points [-]

Who says it doesn't? The problem would be coming up with a way to get their names.