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105 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 21 April 2009 02:44AM

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Comment author: ciphergoth 23 April 2009 01:03:34PM *  2 points [-]

There's sometimes a tendency in rationalists to observe (accurately) that our society overemphasizes politeness over frankness, and then to take it upon ourselves to correct this.

Great comment, agreed on all points. One of my mottos is "As polite as possible; as rude as necessary".

I can't see anything in Annoyance's writings that could not be conveyed with less rudeness except their urge to ensure we all understand the contempt they hold us all in.

Comment author: Mulciber 23 April 2009 08:55:06PM *  0 points [-]

I like that motto a lot. Another one that bears on this is Postel's Law: "Be conservative in what you do; be liberal in what you accept from others."

In the case of wanting to deemphasize politeness, this would suggest being more lenient in the amount of rudeness you allow from others, but not increasing it in your output. Sort of the principle behind Crocker's Rules.

Comment author: Mulciber 23 April 2009 08:57:07PM -1 points [-]

That comment could equally well have gone in "The ideas you're not ready to post," come to think of it.