bbleeker comments on Rationality Quotes June 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: bbleeker 04 June 2012 09:30:54AM 0 points [-]

Where is that from? I think I'd like to read it.

Comment author: Alejandro1 04 June 2012 04:56:33PM *  3 points [-]

In addition to what Wix said, if you'd like a deeper elaboration of his point the book to read is "Freedom Evolves". (There are very similar passages there--I thought that was the source before seeing Wix's response). This is the book that really sold compatibilism to me, changing my view of it from "hmm, interesting argument, but isn't it a bit of a cop-out?" to "wow, free will makes much more sense viewed this way".

Comment author: Grognor 05 June 2012 02:08:13PM 0 points [-]

Interesting reaction. I shall admit that even though Eliezer's free will sequence was intellectually convincing to me, it did not change my alief that free will just isn't there and isn't even a useful allusion. So this is going on my reading list.

Comment author: [deleted] 05 June 2012 06:27:46PM 1 point [-]

it did not change my alief that free will just isn't there

What? You are clearly anticipating as if you have control over your actions, or you would not have attempted to type that comment.

(assuming you are acting approximately like a decision maker. Only agents need to anticipate as if they have free will)

Comment author: Grognor 05 June 2012 08:57:23PM 0 points [-]

No, it just happened. You're underestimating the degree to which people can have different aliefs.

Comment author: MarkusRamikin 05 June 2012 09:25:43AM 0 points [-]

"hmm, interesting argument, but isn't it a bit of a cop-out?"

Precisely what I currently think, except with a little more emphasis and more colorful words.

Guess I'll have to look at that book.

Comment author: bbleeker 05 June 2012 09:04:07AM 0 points [-]

Thanks! It's being delivered to my Kindle right now.

Comment author: [deleted] 04 June 2012 09:57:27AM 1 point [-]

That particular quote is from Susan Blackmore's book Conversations on Consciousness: What the Best Minds Think about the Brain, Free Will, and What It Means to Be Human, the book is divided into specific interviews with philosophers, neuroscientists, psychologists. Great read.

Though I think that the point of quote is something that imbue most of his work.

Comment author: bbleeker 04 June 2012 10:44:14AM 0 points [-]

Thanks!