Dahlen comments on Welcome to Less Wrong! (July 2012) - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Swimmer963 20 July 2012 02:03:12AM 2 points [-]

Welcome!

Many times I've found myself trying to be the voice of reason and pointing out flaws in people's reasoning, even when I agreed with the core idea, only to have them tell me that I'm being too analytical and that I should... what... close off my mind and stop noticing mistakes, right?

That's interesting... I don't think I've ever had someone respond to my pointing out flaws in this way. I've had people argue back plenty of times, but never tell me that we shouldn't be arguing about it. Can you give some examples of topics where this has happened? I would be curious what kind of topics engender this reaction in people.

Comment author: Dahlen 21 July 2012 02:37:59PM 5 points [-]

Oh, it's not a topic-specific behavior. Every time I go too far down a chain of reasoning ("too far" meaning as few as three causal relationships), sometimes people start complaining that I'm giving too much thought to it, and imply they are unable to follow the arguments. I'm just not surrounded by a lot of people that like long and intricate discussions.

(Funnily, both my parents are the type that get tired listening to complex reasoning, and I turned out the complete opposite.)

Comment author: Swimmer963 22 July 2012 03:02:34AM 6 points [-]

I'm just not surrounded by a lot of people that like long and intricate discussions.

That is...intensely frustrating. I've had people tell me that "well, I find all the points you're trying to make really complicated, and it's easier for me to just have faith in God" or that kind of thing, but I've never actually been rebuked for applying an analytical mindset to discussions. Props on having acquired those habits anyway, in spite of what sounds like an unfruitful starting environment!

Comment author: Dahlen 22 July 2012 06:58:46PM 1 point [-]

Thanks! Anyway, there's the internet to compensate for that. The wide range of online forums built around ideas of varied intellectual depth means you even get to choose your difficulty level...