evand comments on The Yudkowsky Ambition Scale - Less Wrong

38 Post author: loup-vaillant 12 September 2012 03:08PM

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Comment author: evand 12 September 2012 08:06:51PM 1 point [-]

That's why 9 specifies "recursively self-improving", not "build a better optimizer", or even recursively improving optimizer. The computer counts for recursively improving, imho, it just needs some help, so it's not self-improving.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 12 September 2012 09:48:44PM 13 points [-]

Presumably, if anyone ever solves 9, so did their mom.
Which is not in fact intended as a "your mom" joke, but I don't see any way around it being read that way.

Comment author: Manfred 12 September 2012 08:17:40PM 0 points [-]

If self-improving intelligence is somwehere on the hierarchy of "better optimizers," you just have to make better optimizers, and eventually you can make a self-improving optimizer. Easy peasy :P Note that this used the assumption the it's possible, and requires you to be charitable about interpreting "hierarchy of optimizers."