MaoShan comments on Firewalling the Optimal from the Rational - Less Wrong

86 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 08 October 2012 08:01AM

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Comment author: MaoShan 09 October 2012 03:09:47AM 0 points [-]

Fair enough. A more accurate statement would be: "Expecting small children...of, OR ELSE, is a mind-control tactic that I feel is wrong to use on children without the capacity to counter it, which I would expect to find in blatantly controlling nations, and not in a supposedly free nation."

I just thought the first version flowed better.

Comment author: wedrifid 09 October 2012 04:22:26AM 3 points [-]

I just thought the first version flowed better.

It does flow well, in as much as the first thing (ridiculous pledge obligation) is already opposed by most of the audience and so they can be expected to applaud when the enemy is associated with the hated thing. Unfortunately it is a crude harnessing of a fallacy.

Comment author: MaoShan 10 October 2012 03:15:09AM 2 points [-]

And I would have got away with it, too, if it weren't for your meddling rationality!