army1987 comments on Open Thread, October 16-31, 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 24 October 2012 08:16:25AM -1 points [-]

I've come up with a litany that would be to instrumental rationality what the Litany of Tarski is to epistemic rationality, expressing the sentiment in "Newcomb's Problem and Regret of Rationality":

If I would be better off taking both boxes,
I desire to choose to take both boxes;
If I would be better off taking only box B,
I desire to choose to take only box B;
Let me not become attached to decision I may not want.

Comment author: wedrifid 24 October 2012 02:54:16PM *  0 points [-]

If I would be better off taking both boxes,
I desire to choose to take both boxes;
If I would be better off taking only box B,
I desire to choose to take only box B;
Let me not become attached to decision I may not want.

This doesn't help in the general case. See, for example...

If I would be better giving Parfit $100,
I desire to choose to give Parfti $100;
If I would be better off keeping my $100,
I desire to choose to keep my $100;
Let me not become attached to decision I may not want.

A step closer to accurate (albeit in need of elegant wording) would be:

If I would be better off having precommited to taking both boxes
I desire to choose to take both boxes...

Comment author: [deleted] 24 October 2012 03:08:04PM *  0 points [-]

“Would” has to be interpreted à la Gary Drescher in Good and Real.

A wording slightly less inelegant than yours would be "If I am better off being the kind of person that gives Parfit $100..."