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Don't rule out marrying for money. (You can marry for love too, because there's plenty of rich people to fall in love with.)
For women looking for rich men, San Fransisco is the place. There are 12,000 more young straight men in SF than equivalent women, and that doesn't include Silicon Valley. Since you're reading Less Wrong, you're probably nerdy enough to pick up a socially awkward, but fiscally successful software developer.
For men looking for rich women, New York City is the best. If you're young and childless, you can enjoy dating women who earn 17% more than you and don't mind splitting the check. Because there are more college educated women than men in NYC, pairing with a career woman should be relatively easy.
If you're really ambitious, go to Hong Kong, Shanghai or Singapore. Expat women will move to these cities to advance their career, but often find it difficult to get a man. (Expat men prefer dating local women, but expat women practically never date local men) I've heard at least two reports of women resorting to traditionally male strategies, like buying drinks or counting the number of approaches they do.
I guess the choice of whom to share my life with is going to affect my eudaimonia to a much greater extent than my household income (at least so long as the latter is larger than the bottom quartile for a first world country), so I'd be a little reluctant to trade off the former for the latter.
Related: A female programmer friend of mine reports that SF area tech companies have a strong pro-female hiring bias--i.e. your coding skills may not have to be all that strong to get hired as a coder.
Is there any hard evidence on this, or is it just the usual scuttlebutt?
That statement was based on the various accounts of expat life in Asia that I'd read online, such as:
http://www.vagabondish.com/female-foreign-japan/
http://www.speakingofchina.com/china-articles/foreign-women-chinese-boyfriend-chinese-husband/#.UI1vlq5ZjxE
http://blog.expatsisterhood.com/2011/11/09/single-women-in-hong-kong-stream-of-consciousness/
http://www.girlschase.com/content/dating-china#ixzz2AcNEouhM
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2006-11/11/content_730390.htm
Hm. I was hoping for additional statistics for my hafu essay, but I guess some anecdotes are good too.
I knew a female Chinese language student who dated a Chinese guy here in Shanghai. I also saw a white girl who married a rural Chinese guy on TV once.
Aside from those 2 examples, it has always been either 1) couples who came together or 2) white guy who gets a Chinese girlfriend.
My perception (which I think a lot of Western guys who come to China share) is that Chinese women make better partners because they aren't as spoiled & demanding as Western women on average. In other words, why marry a woman who doesn't even know how to cook when you could marry a woman who will share all of the responsibilities with you?
This is changing FAST, especially in big cities like Shanghai. Shanghaineese women have a terrible reputation, not only among expats but also among Chinese.
They're not worried about Chinese women trying manipulate them for a visa?
Maybe some are, but that seems more like something a politician would worry about. Yeah it would be tragic if you found out your wife never really loved you & was just playing along the whole time, but that could happen even without the visa. The visa is issued by the government, not the husband, so he doesn't lose much (maybe the application fees & so forth, presuming he pays for them).
I know three guys married to Chinese girls and one in a long term relationship. In more than six months in Shanghai I can recall seeing only one obvious couple where it was a Chinese (looking) guy and a Western girl. Some women understandably get bitter here. Stepping off the plane is like aging ten years and gaining twenty pounds.
That's been my experience in China - I can remember meeting only one instance of a western girl with a Chinese guy, but it seems that over half western guys had Chinese girlfriends. I don't know if expat men actually prefer dating local women, since the vast majority of girls there are local.
But then my experience has been slightly different, as I spent more time in student circles than in working expat circles.
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