drethelin comments on Open Thread, January 1-15, 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: drethelin 03 January 2013 11:23:55PM 3 points [-]

Wow that's amazingly good. It reminds me of how baffled i was about the degree that everyone hated Ayn Rand after reading atlas shrugged as a teenager, and I now realize the reason is that everyone thought she was arguing against things she wasn't arguing against.

Comment author: shminux 04 January 2013 12:37:59AM 0 points [-]

It's a great description, I agree. Unfortunately, Atlas Shrugged is meta-ethics top-heavy on fighting the "the motive of service to others is intrinsically virtuous" windmill/strawman. So much so, that I was unable to continue reading after the first 100 pages or so, given the quoted statement seems obviously fallacious to me to begin with, yet she kept pounding on and on.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 04 January 2013 02:50:34PM 0 points [-]

fighting the "the motive of service to others is intrinsically virtuous" windmill/strawman.

Would that it were a windmill/strawman.... but sometimes dysfunctional families teach their less-favored children to believe it, and I'd say that some nations certainly go in for it now and then.

Admittedly, this isn't service to others in general, it's to some specific person or organization which wants the service, and that changes the concept somewhat.

Comment author: drethelin 04 January 2013 07:04:19AM 0 points [-]

oh, don't get me wrong. I'm not an objectivist and I think Atlas Shrugged is badly written. I just get really tired of people attacking Ayn Rand for stupid reasons