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Anatoly_Vorobey comments on Open Thread, February 1-14, 2013 - Less Wrong
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Throwing out this accusation without links/explanations/examples is, in fact, trolling.
One example after I posted that comment: Capture, burnt remains. There's been a pile of others (mostly not in fact Dmytry, before you make that claim), but the current site code no longer leaves a really embarrassingly obvious string of "Comment deleted".
Really, are you seriously claiming you thought I was just making it up?
Requesting evidence is good behavior and should not be discouraged.
Requesting evidence is good behavior. Combining it with a counteraccusation of trolling slides the whole comment into the negative, for me.
Likewise, not only is it an objectionable social move it is also just false. An abuse of language. Following through the reasoning (and also observing that often quoting or linking to copies of deleted comments is also considered trolling) makes the label 'troll' a label that can applied rather indiscriminately to anyone who dissents, regardless of how and why they do it.
Anatoly is right. Accusation without proof is trolling, even if the proof exists. Thank you for providing at least a small part. But why so coy about the others?
Regarding this:
You do realize you can't tell the difference between someone deleting their own comment and a moderator deleting their comment?
I don't know what Dmytry is doing, but it is possible to tell the difference. If I delete my comment, it is not visible on my user page. Whereas, if the moderators delete a comment, it vanishes in context (and its permalink shows "deleted comment"), but the contents are visible on the user page.
A few more details. If I delete my comment, its permalink is an error. I cannot seem to delete a comment without deleting its replies, while moderators can (and users could in the past). If I delete the reply and then the comment, the permalink shows a deleted comment (as if deleted by moderators), but it is not listed on my user page.
If the accusation is false than it's very easy for someone like Eliezer to say: "This has no basis". If the accusation is true than it might violate the rules to reprint censored posts. A lack of public denail is a good way to see whether the accusation has a basis.