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erratio comments on Open Thread, February 1-14, 2013 - Less Wrong
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I'm relatively certain (>95%) that Dymitry/Private_messaging gets special treatment (ie. deletion) because the admins consider him a troll. The point of deleting even his reasonable comments would be to get him to stop commenting at all. I'm not aware of any other LessWrong users who are considered trolls by the site admins.
They're right to do so.
There are certainly some others, but I'm not sure naming names is really appropriate.
Will_Newsome, eridu, and more generally anyone who's ever had negative last-30-days karma.
Didn't Will_Newsome say several times that he was trolling and post material designed to get downvoted? Not sure that's quite a comparison to eridu.
(To give a recent example, we banned a user from
#lesswrongfor mailbombing with porn sites another user; they did this partially because they were offended and partially to get themselves banned and stop spending time there. The ban is perfectly justified, yet I would not have called them a troll before or after.)Yes, he did. No, I wasn't comparing them to each other, but it is the case that unlike eridu or Dmytry, Will_Newsome did not trigger the “since he posted lots of trollish comments, let's delete reasonable comments by him as well” reaction in the mods, as far as I can remember.
I've had a few comments deleted that I thought weren't egregiously unreasonable but were "provocative" and minimally substantive. I don't think the deletions were too unreasonable either—perhaps a tad overzealous. Overall I think the LW mods have been quite just regarding me, though some of the normal users have been a bit crazy, and I'm glad those users aren't mods.
Peterdjones, too, if I'm not mistaken.
Beware edge cases! By this criterion, E.Y. could go on math-crunch-camp / hiatus and then make a single comment after 30 days that isn't too well received, and instantly be considered troll.
Not really an objection to the main point, though. Just felt like mentioning.
I was just reporting the criterion that I had heard EY was using; I wasn't endorsing it.
Oh, thanks for clarifying.
(Anyway, if there was widespread common knowledge among non-trolls that anyone with negative last-30-days karma will be labelled as Evil and may be punished with a dust speck in the eye every day for 3^^^3 days, then whenever someone came back from a 30-day leave they would make a comment in the latest Group Rationality Diary thread explaining what they had been up to, and get enough positive karma to prevent ending up net negative for moderately disagreed-with comments.)
On a very casual glance, the scythe is all over the place.
eridu's now-deleted comments supporting radical feminism definitely didn't fit that pattern. Most of them were trollish by any reasonable standard, but some weren't that bad and I guess were deleted just because of who their author was.
How do you explain this?
That's "critique"?
... yes? If you're not going to agree with semantics, you could at least explain why.
Where?
Why do I have memories of reading critique in the comments to multiple articles, if this is the case? Granted, I should probably go collect such comments to verify said memories, but... that would take a lot of searching... and isn't really the optimal thing to use that time/effort for...
If you don't like participating in threads where things randomly vanish, stop replying to trolls.
I am uninterested in this discussion.