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Will_Newsome, eridu, and more generally anyone who's ever had negative last-30-days karma.
Didn't Will_Newsome say several times that he was trolling and post material designed to get downvoted? Not sure that's quite a comparison to eridu.
(To give a recent example, we banned a user from
#lesswrongfor mailbombing with porn sites another user; they did this partially because they were offended and partially to get themselves banned and stop spending time there. The ban is perfectly justified, yet I would not have called them a troll before or after.)Yes, he did. No, I wasn't comparing them to each other, but it is the case that unlike eridu or Dmytry, Will_Newsome did not trigger the “since he posted lots of trollish comments, let's delete reasonable comments by him as well” reaction in the mods, as far as I can remember.
I've had a few comments deleted that I thought weren't egregiously unreasonable but were "provocative" and minimally substantive. I don't think the deletions were too unreasonable either—perhaps a tad overzealous. Overall I think the LW mods have been quite just regarding me, though some of the normal users have been a bit crazy, and I'm glad those users aren't mods.
Peterdjones, too, if I'm not mistaken.
Beware edge cases! By this criterion, E.Y. could go on math-crunch-camp / hiatus and then make a single comment after 30 days that isn't too well received, and instantly be considered troll.
Not really an objection to the main point, though. Just felt like mentioning.
I was just reporting the criterion that I had heard EY was using; I wasn't endorsing it.
Oh, thanks for clarifying.
(Anyway, if there was widespread common knowledge among non-trolls that anyone with negative last-30-days karma will be labelled as Evil and may be punished with a dust speck in the eye every day for 3^^^3 days, then whenever someone came back from a 30-day leave they would make a comment in the latest Group Rationality Diary thread explaining what they had been up to, and get enough positive karma to prevent ending up net negative for moderately disagreed-with comments.)